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redqueen

(115,177 posts)
26. LOVE this. And this just cracked me up:
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 11:40 AM
Feb 2014
I can see how this is a convenient narrative. A guy who hits on a woman inappropriately and makes her upset or angry can just throw up his hands and be like, “Whoa, no idea what just happened there.” Or, worse, he can go post on an MRA forum about how women discriminate against unattractive men by calling them creeps.


On an MRA forum, eh? Really? Is that where men say that and don't get called out on it en masse?




And QFT:

But in this case, it’s bad behavior being excused because the person’s attractive, not good behavior being problematized because the person’s unattractive. (I’m tempted to call this the Don Draper Effect, but I’ve been watching too much Mad Men lately.) Needless to say, it’s really creepy to hear someone essentially say, “I wish I were more attractive so I could get away with harassing and abusing people more easily.

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we must take responsibility for not being raped, and when we do, we are picking on men. seabeyond Feb 2014 #1
Right? ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #2
Creepy is accurate. There is push back on it because it is so undesireable. But that's the point. Squinch Feb 2014 #4
Yeah I guess you're right. ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #5
the thing... i do not think it is sociopath. i think it is the regular joe, being conditioned, seabeyond Feb 2014 #6
Oh, God. I didn't see that... Squinch Feb 2014 #8
sociopathy is on the rise, sea. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #10
too convenient to place over half our men as sociopaths. dont buy it. seabeyond Feb 2014 #12
will get back to you on this. also, sea - you must realize that women can be sociopaths, too. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #15
I remember that study! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #25
Oh, please. That whole thread was like an "I don't know the difference between sex and rape" Squinch Feb 2014 #7
That's about right ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #9
Oh, I know you don't need help with words. And I'm glad you spared yourself that thread. Squinch Feb 2014 #11
Me too ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #13
I particularly liked Bains recent observation: there are things we commonly see on DU that Squinch Feb 2014 #14
That Post of Baines' ... ON FIRE!! Love that quote. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #17
She was on a roll that day. I kept reading her posts and saying, "I'm SO GLAD someone said that!" Squinch Feb 2014 #18
me too, Squinch. me too. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #21
That's exactly my problem ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #22
I don't recommend it to friends either. Too archaic on this issue, often too upsetting. Squinch Feb 2014 #23
I'm pretty aggressive ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #24
All these guys who have the idea that "creep" is a word applied to unattractive men need to Squinch Feb 2014 #3
it has beem my experience that some of the most physically attractive men have been Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #16
The entitlement factor is often a lot stronger. And to me, that's the basis of the "creep." Squinch Feb 2014 #19
true enough - Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #20
LOVE this. And this just cracked me up: redqueen Feb 2014 #26
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