History of Feminism
In reply to the discussion: Shouldn't progressives/liberals treat women as human beings? [View all]BainsBane
(55,325 posts)I see. For daring to think we are human beings with equal rights, so they will make clear they see women as worthless outside of bikini spreads and porn.
I think that's over that comment TA made months ago that they still pissed off over. If I had that kind of memory for every insult made against me, there would be no room in my brain for anything else. It only shows their incredible sense of entitlement that they think an insult against them and their clique is more serious than insults to any other DUers or indeed half the human race. That same member complained for more than six months about his hide accusing those in support of rape prevention campaigns of "haranguing men." He believes himself so important that he can display a chilling callousness toward rape victims and face no consequences. That hide was everyone else's fault, the alerter, mine, MIRT's, but never his. Why should he have to show anything but absolute contempt for victims who have their lives ravaged by violent assault? Their rapes are trivial compared to the indignity he has to suffer in coming across an occasional anti-rape PSA online. Poor him. It's always poor them. Nothing else matters but their tender egos, least of all women.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I had never engaged in a single discussion with that person they insist that all women on DU are somehow responsible for bullying. (Or if they gripe is against HOF, why post something deliberately insulting to all women?). I have seen her make a number of nasty comments about me personaly in a group that I'm banned from, and when I saw her doing the same in a thread in GD, I asked her what her issue with me was. That's the extent of my conversation with her. I find people like that far too tedious to deal with, and I haven't even discussed an issue with her let alone bully her. That comment itself reveals that he sees her as unable to stand up for herself, as somehow weak. I assume everyone on DU is perfectly capable of expressing their own views and that no one requires special protection.
The fact is, I ignore most if not all of those people. (I did correct some blatantly false info they were posting about the Woody Allen case and linked to the court record, which naturally they ignored because vilifying and shaming a woman and child who reported a pedophile was far more important than the legal Finding of Fact.) Some I use the ignore function with and others I just plain ignore. I have that group in the trash can and haven't looked in there in months until Seabeyond asked me to alert on that post today. What pisses me off is not even that the poster uses vulgar slurs about women. That members views are well known, and I expect the worst from him. What angers me and why I posted this thread is that a jury allow it to stand and one jury even called that incredibly offensive word "acceptable."
That thread in the "safe haven" serves the same purpose as the SI thread. To mark their territory as exclusive space for old reactionary men, where feminists and others concerned with equal rights are not welcome. Some appear to want this site to become a haven for white male supremacists. The African American and Muslim members have felt under assault for some time, which anyone knows who reads the threads in those groups. Meanwhile, the post Sea links to and other actions by various members make clear they want feminists gone as well. They indeed are succeeding. Bully for them. DU is become increasingly intolerant of feminists, Muslims, African Americans, and the voices of anyone but people exactly like them. That, however, doesn't change the fact that time marches on and whatever they do on DU has zero impact on the real world. They can create their reactionary territory online where the perspectives of feminists and people of color are treated with complete contempt but it won't change the fact that the world around them has moved on. They can't stop progress. They can't change the fact that being born white and male no longer guarantees them absolute and unchecked privilege over everyone else, and we have all seen just how pissed they are about that. Despising progress won't turn back the clock. Creating a reactionary space online that excludes everyone but themselves and their sycophants won't change the fact that they are relics of a half century ago. It's not going to improve their education, their jobs, or their personal relationships. They will still be the same resentful men they always have been and will go to their graves full of anger that women are increasing in power and strength while they continue to feel themselves outclassed in life.
My advice is when more of those flamebait threads appear in GD, simply trash them. Alert but don't take their bait. You know they post them with the explicit purpose of causing offense, so don't give them the satisfaction of participating. They want to get a rise out of you, so don't give it to them.