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In reply to the discussion: The vilification of Mia Farrow on DU [View all]seabeyond
(110,159 posts)125. 2000 words trying to make Mia Farrow sound like a crazy bitch, presenting incomplete and false info
Allen spends 2000 words trying to make Mia Farrow sound like a crazy bitch, presenting incomplete and false information, and showing disrespect to his children, especially Dylan.
TWENTY-ONE years ago, when I first heard Mia Farrow had accused me of child molestation, I found the idea so ludicrous I didn’t give it a second thought.
In the first sentence there are two things that are a bit disturbing. The first is that Mia Farrow never accused him of child molestation, Dylan Farrow did. Mia did not even go to the police with it, she went to a pediatrician, who by law was required to contact the police. Allen is immediately turning this into a narrative of how Mia Farrow is out to get him, rather than a narrative about Dylan Farrow, who should be the focus of his response. The second thing that bothers me is that he was accused of molestation by a child he was already in therapy for inappropriate behavior towards and who he was not allowed to see alone. If I was a person wrongly accused of sexual abuse of a child, especially one where there was already damning evidence around me, I would FREAK OUT, but certainly I would give it a second thought. That he didn’t give it a second thought and that he is comfortable beginning his defense narrative with the fact that he didn’t give it a second thought says to me that he somehow thinks this sort of accusation is not abnormal and a blasé response is perfectly acceptable and normal.
We were involved in a terribly acrimonious breakup, with great enmity between us and a custody battle slowly gathering energy.
We’ve made it to the second sentence, where he continues to present misinformation and attempts to paint Mia Farrow as a stereotypical vindictive woman scorned. They were involved in an acrimonious breakup, because he’d cheated on her with her daughter, the sister of his children. But there was no custody battle until after the police were alerted to Dylan’s claims. He filed suit for custody BECAUSE Dylan made a sexual abuse claim against him — until then, he’d agreed not to even try to get custody. The suit was ruled to be frivolous and he was forced to pay all of Mia Farrow’s legal fees. In my opinion, he filed for custody to cast doubt upon Mia Farrow’s role as a mother to divert attention away from Dylan’s claims.
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The police began their investigation; a possible indictment hung in the balance. I very willingly took a lie-detector test and of course passed because I had nothing to hide. I asked Mia to take one and she wouldn’t.
The police asked Allen to take a polygraph and he refused — he took it for his own attorneys. The Connecticut State Police refused to accept it as evidence. Likewise, Mia Farrow was not asked by police to take a polygraph, only by Allen for his attorneys. Of course she refused to take a test administered by people working for him. Furthermore, polygraphs are notoriously unreliable.
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Meanwhile the Connecticut police turned for help to a special investigative unit they relied on in such cases, the Child Sexual Abuse Clinic of the Yale-New Haven Hospital. This group of impartial, experienced men and women whom the district attorney looked to for guidance as to whether to prosecute, spent months doing a meticulous investigation, interviewing everyone concerned, and checking every piece of evidence. Finally they wrote their conclusion which I quote here: “It is our expert opinion that Dylan was not sexually abused by Mr. Allen. Further, we believe that Dylan’s statements on videotape and her statements to us during our evaluation do not refer to actual events that occurred to her on August 4th, 1992… In developing our opinion we considered three hypotheses to explain Dylan’s statements. First, that Dylan’s statements were true and that Mr. Allen had sexually abused her; second, that Dylan’s statements were not true but were made up by an emotionally vulnerable child who was caught up in a disturbed family and who was responding to the stresses in the family; and third, that Dylan was coached or influenced by her mother, Ms. Farrow. While we can conclude that Dylan was not sexually abused, we can not be definite about whether the second formulation by itself or the third formulation by itself is true. We believe that it is more likely that a combination of these two formulations best explains Dylan’s allegations of sexual abuse.”
Could it be any clearer? Mr. Allen did not abuse Dylan; most likely a vulnerable, stressed-out 7-year-old was coached by Mia Farrow. This conclusion disappointed a number of people. The district attorney was champing at the bit to prosecute a celebrity case, and Justice Elliott Wilk, the custody judge, wrote a very irresponsible opinion saying when it came to the molestation, “we will probably never know what occurred.”
But we did know because it had been determined and there was no equivocation about the fact that no abuse had taken place.
Could it be any clearer? Mr. Allen did not abuse Dylan; most likely a vulnerable, stressed-out 7-year-old was coached by Mia Farrow. This conclusion disappointed a number of people. The district attorney was champing at the bit to prosecute a celebrity case, and Justice Elliott Wilk, the custody judge, wrote a very irresponsible opinion saying when it came to the molestation, “we will probably never know what occurred.”
But we did know because it had been determined and there was no equivocation about the fact that no abuse had taken place.
The investigators did a job that was so terrible that current child abuse experts decry it as a terrible injustice to Dylan and the custody judge dismissed it as not credible because they’d destroyed their notes and refused to testify. That Allen’s only source is something that even the doctor of the report now agrees was a bad job says a lot about the quality of his argument.
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we think the molestation of a child is very much a feminist issue. we also think the vilification
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#5
ok. we are going to disagree for numerous reasons. but, i do not think that matters, and
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#12
actually, there is huge value to this mess. It shows a textbook case on how to slander your
roguevalley
Feb 2014
#94
defense of male privilege and entitlement at ALL cost. yes. further, there is absolute evidence
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#4
no. it is not what the two men that started up the group inspired to. they actively worked
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#9
I wonder how that judge feels now...big mistake on his part...how goddamn tragic...
CTyankee
Feb 2014
#17
well, I understand why he didn't want Dylan to suffer but this can't make him feel good...
CTyankee
Feb 2014
#19
BUT...he did take care of the child. no custody for allen. no visitation, no supervised
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#76
so, court documents says she did not do that. kids said she didnt. therapist said she didnt.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#59
As a father of two children , living with my ex , who has enough blind hatred of ME ...
pkdu
Feb 2014
#106
maybe you should "deal with it" being facts. even after mia foudn out her partner was fucking her
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#108
go up and read the judges decision. Mia was slandered. Of course the little creep is going
roguevalley
Feb 2014
#95
ah. so really, you are just throwing shit out, knowing it is shit slinging. gotcha. we will
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#110
I just don't know what to think about the accusations against Woody Allen by Mia Farrow
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#22
Who claimed that Rowan was not Woody's child? I thought it was Rowan and Mia.
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#91
there is NO evidence mia did that. stated in court documents. the timeline of her taking care of
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#77
she didn't. read the report. then your 'ifs' will be unnecessary. she didn't do what you
roguevalley
Feb 2014
#96
there isn't but since you believe there is, post it. seriously. facts please. ANd no, I am not
roguevalley
Feb 2014
#98
this isn't about celebrity shit. this is the way a perp slanders someone and walks.
roguevalley
Feb 2014
#101
in montana a 14 yr old girl was raped by a grown man in his 40's. she ended up committing suicide.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#122
Thanks for starting this thread. I didn't know about attacks as I don't read most posts.
SleeplessinSoCal
Feb 2014
#55
I haven't noticed more vilification of Mia here than I've seen of Woody (n/t)
thesquanderer
Feb 2014
#56
mia didnt molest a child. woody did. why would there not be more.... vilification of woody.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#67
not only did the judge read it all, and listening to both speak, read the experts, police and
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#83
I've seen several people say exactly what was claimed. It's not a faux argument.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#72
Are you going to be the arbitrator for who is and who is not a feminist?
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#75
people who are not informed have said it. and after a correction i have not seen any of those
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#80
cant help that all do not have those facts straight. it depends how much one is informed.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#68
given that he's been in therapy for what? FIFTY YEARS!? I think he needs a refund.
roguevalley
Feb 2014
#102
i know... lol. i did. then i thought, nah, he has to change out every couple years.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#111
2000 words trying to make Mia Farrow sound like a crazy bitch, presenting incomplete and false info
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#125
Two embedded links in the essay point to statement analyses of both Dylan Farrow's and
Z_I_Peevey
Feb 2014
#127
so much more i could have copied and pasted. the attic part was really interesting.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#128
Thanks for that. There is no way any reasonable person can continue to peddle false balance,
redqueen
Feb 2014
#132
I love Mia Farrow. I believe Dylan Farrow. I totally believe that Woody Allen is basically an
kestrel91316
Feb 2014
#130