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Fire Walk With Me

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40. Look at Greece and the neo-NAZI "golden dawn" party, and until recently
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:26 AM
Mar 2013

the Goldman Sacks lackey in charge of Italy, and his henchmen scattered around Europe in government and banking.

When you look at America, you are looking at Personal Convenience as a main motivating factor. Helping Others is another but it doesn't factor in this particular equation. When Personal Convenience is directly assaulted, people will be unhappy and want it to change. When it becomes bad enough, people will scream for change. Unfortunately the powers that be fully understand this sadistic possibility and opportunity: you can purposefully create the causes and conditions in which people will demand Change no matter what, and will jump to demand placed into power, any who shout that they can deliver it. Even those who have created the problem in order to be placed into power.

This has occurred two particular times in recent history:

1. The Bush Disaster Family and their ties with OPEC caused an oil embargo which made President Carter appear weak and foolish. Americans were significantly impacted and they demanded Change. Bush also managed to get reportedly get Iran to hold the hostages until Reagan took office to again make Carter appear weak and foolish. Worked like a charm and disaster waltzed right in. From Reagan we see the beginning of the destruction of unions and the middle class, the start of the long game which is currently reaching fruition.

2. The major Bush supporters Enron met with Schwarzenneger before purposefully shutting down portions of the California power grid, a series of events named "rolling blackouts". Californians wanted Change. A run-off election occurred and Schwarzenneger waltzed right in and immediately began hacking away at infrastructure serviceperson pensions and unions, schools, etc. And Enron were forgiven the rulings against them to the tune, IIRC, of pennies on the dollar.

Note that energy was involved twice, and that the right wing pulled it off. Energy and such are issues which are not effected by voting, and the right and the rich will use such lateral stunts to direct politics in their preferred direction. See the Koch brother article I posted yesterday.

Read "The Shock Doctrine" and "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room". Debt and disaster are used to ripen conditions for control and profit. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. And debt is the main tool being used as far as I can see to ripen conditions in Europe. This may be why it is seemingly impossible to get politicians to do something, anything about the $1 trillion of US student loan debt. Our young are already in their thrall.

The Citigroup "Plutonomy" memo mentions the rich wanting right-wing, anti-immigration governments which will aid in profitable globalisation efforts. The very rich are most certainly engaging in their creation as we post. Voting will not slow down these corporations. But note that the memo lists their first and most significant fear, which is of a populist uprising demanding fair income equality and action against right-wing, corporate and bank-friendly politics.

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I posted last night that we'll have to be content with social progress Warpy Mar 2013 #1
Sadly, I think you are right. Cleita Mar 2013 #2
not sad kardonb Mar 2013 #30
>you people< ?? Who the fuck are you? n/t jtuck004 Mar 2013 #32
I trhnk the derivatives collapse the first time around truedelphi Mar 2013 #4
I hear your frustration, Flying Squirrel Skittles Mar 2013 #3
I invite you to check out the Stock Market Watch and Weekend Economists threads Demeter Mar 2013 #5
A person with Nothing formercia Mar 2013 #6
A point well-known to Macchiavelli Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #22
Like a rolling stone. WheelWalker Mar 2013 #26
I honestly wish Obama had let the country slip into another Great Depression DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #7
Would you rather the Great Depression had not happened Flying Squirrel Mar 2013 #10
playing with time and human life DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #31
I think the idea is... sangsaran Mar 2013 #13
In the OP's defense, bvar22 Mar 2013 #15
It's a sad time for most who have nothing else... we see the truth fascisthunter Mar 2013 #8
"I honestly wish Obama had let the country slip into another Great Depression" NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #9
See post 10. Why don't you hide my OP? Flying Squirrel Mar 2013 #12
Who said I wanted to hide your OP? NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #17
I understand your frustration. I have gone to that place myself on more than one occasion. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #11
I agree that we should keep fighting Flying Squirrel Mar 2013 #14
I'm not sure any amount of suffering will improve our chances in the long term. sangsaran Mar 2013 #21
Sorry I dont understand. Elites rule. They always have and they always will. We just have to find rhett o rick Mar 2013 #23
+1 n/t Laelth Mar 2013 #27
Now I've seen everything Politicub Mar 2013 #16
Actually, you should be lamenting that "Job #1" has been to restore Wall Street... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #18
already left once... dtom67 Mar 2013 #19
Who led Occupy? Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #24
Occupy has promise, but.. dtom67 Mar 2013 #29
I have seen to spontaneous miracles of unity in my time kickysnana Mar 2013 #35
You're right but the people will never rise up they're too tired from work. craigmatic Mar 2013 #20
The time will come when they have no work. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #25
Or food. Enter peak oil and climate change into the equation ... Auggie Mar 2013 #28
unfortunately this is not a light switch situation tiredtoo Mar 2013 #33
Read Howard Zinn's caseymoz Mar 2013 #34
Kevin Phillips Wealth and Democracy builds a similar argument. motocicleta2 Mar 2013 #36
I would like to believe that, but . . . caseymoz Mar 2013 #38
I missed DU. motocicleta2 Mar 2013 #37
I could not agree more, with you and with the OP. This forum is one of the main sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #39
Hello ~ motocicleta2. Nice to see you back again at DU. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #41
Thanks! motocicleta2 Mar 2013 #42
Indeed! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #43
Look at Greece and the neo-NAZI "golden dawn" party, and until recently Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author antiquie Mar 2013 #44
I'm not an economist, I'm not anything approaching an expert. I'm simply attempting to synthesize Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #45
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