Occupy Underground

and OccupySandy. Those volunteers aren't exactly doing the easiest thing are they?

It all depends on the quality of the information people use and the process. And especially if you keep things al local as can be, I think the danger of always going "the easy road" (like, not investing in decent environmental practices) becomes much smaller.

Again, I do understand the risk. It's real, and tbh I won't be defending the 5 star movement like I'm absolutely convinced of the outcome. I just by far prefer the uncertainty of empowering the people to the certainty of leaving power where it has been utterly corrupted.