Occupy Underground

I've said this before and will say it again. When we were peaceful and got the crap beat out of us public support was moving our way. People were seeing the over the top amount of police as a huge waste of taxpayer money. They were seeing a police state and they did not like the abuse leveled onto the peaceful protesters by the police. Plus we could sue for it.

When they hear of bombs, fires, windows breaking, and assault to the police and their animals, they see the protesters as the problem. They see the over the top amount of police as needed to protect them from us. They see the police violence as warranted.

People will not come to protest if they end this way. People will allow protest to be outlawed if they end this way. And people will cheer on the police brutality even when it becomes fatal if they end this way.

We must have the support of the people to continue and to grow the movement.

This asinine juvenile delinquent level of violence is threatening all of it.

Now, I do know that the police infiltrate the anarchist and in fact, historically have always infiltrated all protest groups. The difference being that they cannot get the peaceful protesters to burn things, smash things and assault things. The anarchist are easy pickens for the police who are directed by the 1% to break us up.

Notice the media is often where shit is gonna happen? Thats because the police inform them so they can get what they want shown on all of our tv screens. The infiltrators are purposely causing violence to turn the public support away from us and give the police a reason to bust heads. Many do seem to enjoy head busting.

In the anarchist, they have an un witted friend. The anarchist are often set up, but make no mistake they are hoping to cause chaos themselves. They think they would like a war zone. Apparently they are young and not too wise and never seem to fail the police efforts to get them to do stupid shit.

The occupy movement must find a way to stop their actions or isolate them in the protest or this movement will not grow. They will just outlaw the protest. Permits won't be given.

The protest in Chicago was permitted and should have ended when agreed upon. Especially at a federally sanctioned affair, it was stupid to try to take a stand. There are plenty of actions in which we can shut down this or that and some may refuse to leave and choose arrest. But if we want to ever have the right to gather and protest, the permitted ones should stick to the agreement.

Violence and juvenile window breaking should never be part of this peaceful movement. Don't let the anarchist co-op this movement.

Even attacking the officers and horses was juvenile as both were well protected. They stand little chance of injury. Quit giving them a "legal" reason to bust your head and mine.

The streets of Chicago were mostly empty except for the protesters. The media and the police had done a fine job of portraying the protests as violent. I laughed at them. But lo and behold, you managed to make them feel justified in being afraid of the protesters.

Now is not the time for violence. I don't know that it ever will be. But we don't stand a chance in hell against the police in a violent manner. They will prevail that way.

I believe there are plenty of police who have come to hate all protesters. They show the republicon traits of believing we are all dirty hippies who need both baths and jobs. Can you say 1950's? They, like santorum and most pugs, are still stuck there.

Yet not all of the police are like that. Many really do want to serve. They can't just quit their job and not do as ordered and join the movement. They have families. They won't quit the job for the movement any more than most of us would.

Anyway, stand your ground if you want but permitted protest often include children, so permitted protest should end as agreed. Non permitted protest can go as you like as long as you resist the violence they are so desperate to show the world. Don't let them win so easily by allowing them to convince you that violence is the answer. Violence will only destroy this movement.

I hope occupy with all of it's great peaceful minds can find a way through this.