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pinboy3niner

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52. It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what Occupiers in the streets are doing...
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:07 AM
May 2012

...when you characterize them as "tut-tutting' and saying, "Don't do that, maaaaan." That characterization is false and demeaning.

And merely demanding to know what disruptors are doing would halt their chaos? Really?

Interesting that you mention the effectiveness of recording disruptors--something that Occupiers have been doing from the very beginning. We have occupiers with cameras and cells as well as livestreamers, and they are alerted whenever a disruption occurs. You're really re-inventing the wheel here.

Pondering this challenge from home is one thing. But those who have been in the streets have been facing this challenge for a long time, and they have well-developed tactics, already tested in the streets, to deal with disruptors in nonviolent ways.

It's not easy, and not always successful (especially when the police respond against Occupiers but not against disruptors). But, whether or not you are aware of it, Occupiers do have a well-developed and systematic plan to meet the challenges posed by disruptors who intrude on nonviolent protests.

Please consider: That this is nothing new to Occupy protesters; that reactive tactics have been honed and tested over time; and that Occupiers may not be quite as clueless as you may imagine...maaaaan.

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SF, Seattle and Cleveland eridani May 2012 #1
And what will M$M cover about May Day 2012? freshwest May 2012 #5
They could be paid to go in and do this...these people could movonne May 2012 #11
The occupy movement will be marked by this liberal N proud May 2012 #2
just like the 60's oldhippydude May 2012 #3
I don't blame them. LASlibinSC May 2012 #4
We have a few blame memes in this country that have gotten completely out of hand and are untrue. freshwest May 2012 #6
Manipulated storylines - just like VVAW was infiltrated by RW agents in the 60s to discredit blm May 2012 #7
It seems that Occupy is more vulnerable than those movements. But we have to remember how long those freshwest May 2012 #8
they will continue to disrupt as long as it works G_j May 2012 #16
Yes... LASlibinSC May 2012 #9
I realize that the Occupy Movement likes to be "organic" and "leaderless" MADem May 2012 #10
the friggin borg? U4ikLefty May 2012 #13
Isn't that what consensus is--a borg of sorts? MADem May 2012 #14
Your "frigging borg" comment was a dig on Occupy...don't pretend. U4ikLefty May 2012 #17
No it was not. You need to stop telling people what they think about things and how they feel about MADem May 2012 #18
Your words betray your cries to the contrary. U4ikLefty May 2012 #19
No they don't. And if those are your examples of "unpraiseworthy" posts, your skin is paper thin. MADem May 2012 #20
More insults & still no pro-Occupy posts. Hmmmm U4ikLefty May 2012 #21
The insult flinger is in your mirror. MADem May 2012 #22
How do you propose to keep people like this away from a public event? ellisonz May 2012 #23
Point-n-mock works well. If a hundred (or two hundred) people surround, isolate and shout at MADem May 2012 #25
Your answer is the use of unlawful force. ellisonz May 2012 #26
Force, Schmorce. Pointing and mocking and yelling at lawbreakers is "unlawful force?" MADem May 2012 #27
*le sigh* ellisonz May 2012 #28
"Le Helpless Poor Me" is what you're giving me. MADem May 2012 #33
You seem very angry... ellisonz May 2012 #34
"You seem very angry" is what people say when they don't have a meaningful answer to the points MADem May 2012 #35
And now you're projecting... ellisonz May 2012 #36
You continue to try to make this about me. Waaah, you're angry, waaaah, you're projecting! MADem May 2012 #39
"unlawful force" ellisonz May 2012 #41
Oh, bullshit. MADem May 2012 #44
Moral authority without actual authority is little authority at all. ellisonz May 2012 #45
Then why OCCUPY? Your comment makes no sense! MADem May 2012 #49
No, it's your comments that make no sense pinboy3niner May 2012 #50
Yes, you have a debate. Really. MADem May 2012 #51
It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what Occupiers in the streets are doing... pinboy3niner May 2012 #52
I have eyes and I can see. MADem May 2012 #53
You think Occupiers haven't confronted disruptors, en masse? pinboy3niner May 2012 #55
Well, that's different from what I was hearing before. MADem May 2012 #58
Why keep beating a straw man? ellisonz May 2012 #54
Great post pinboy3niner May 2012 #56
I try to keep it real. ellisonz May 2012 #57
That's the thing though--they haven't made their disapproval clear. MADem May 2012 #59
You know anything else about Oakland & January 28th? U4ikLefty May 2012 #29
Of course that's how the police behave...that's their expected behavior. limpyhobbler May 2012 #30
Here's a video to provide some context. U4ikLefty May 2012 #37
Yeah that video is awesome. limpyhobbler May 2012 #47
Nice to see an honest response...thanks!!! U4ikLefty May 2012 #60
Gee, and you are blaming ME? MADem May 2012 #32
Don't blame me for your ignorance. U4ikLefty May 2012 #38
I am not the ignorant one, here. You have a nice day, now! MADem May 2012 #40
That's all you've got? U4ikLefty May 2012 #42
You're plainly unclear on the concept. MADem May 2012 #43
Broken Record. U4ikLefty May 2012 #46
That's not accurate, either. NT MADem May 2012 #48
I'm Ashamed IvanTheRed1233 May 2012 #31
ACORN LASlibinSC May 2012 #12
I've never understood why nobody has ever tried to get O'Keefe the same way. Chan790 May 2012 #24
Just following the military RobertEarl May 2012 #15
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