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Leopolds Ghost

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4. Polls now work on DU3!
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 04:43 PM
Apr 2012

Is this a new thing, ellisonz? Polls, that is.

Full disclosure: Ellisonz asked me to work a bit more on the hosting guidelines we were originally proposing for this group, in order to revise them according to what people were saying in a previous thread. I've been working away on it (there were two completely separate drafts, one submitted by long-time users from DU2 who wanted a place they felt welcome, and one submitted by ellisonz in response to feedback after the forum was created) although I haven't been pushing myself to finish it, I should probably do so very soon or else those documents will become irrelevant.

I think it is valuable to look over the proposed hosting guidelines and make necessary changes if we're going to think about hosts.

My "thing" is that I think it would be nice to run GA threads and pinned "mini-project" threads for meetups etc. here on Occupy Underground.

But if we want to have (community created) guidelines and pinned threads, hosts seem to be required. Apparently there's no such thing as "non-hosting" guidelines although I suppose we could "be different" and create them.

My feeling is that if we have hosts, they should serve at the pleasure of the group meaning the lead host would take a background role and re-appoint co-hosts according to the will of the group. I also think we should try to use consensus, which is possible using poll threads (we did it when we did the proposal for this group.

Consensus might not be used to actually choose between a slate of "candidates", for that we could use "slate" voting where you put the candidates in a straw poll and the top X vote-getters win.

But it could be used to authorize the hosts to actually do anything (including reconsider a block or off-topic decision, which shouldn't be a problem, since if we can safely get away with NO hosts, then we can safely get away with structuring any hosting guidelines in such a way that it's difficult to block users or threads except in extreme circumstances where the group actually asks the hosts to do so.) Other hosting duties such as pinning threads are less controversial and can easily be done using consensus. Note that I'm not a consensus fanatic, I just think it's an elegant system for horizontally structured, activist friendly projects which are especially open (in fact, open groups like us and Occupy are especially difficult to be run by simple majority vote without adopting a top-down structure to decide who is and is not "off the island&quot and in the tradition of Occupy.

I dunno... your thoughts? NYC SKP and Unrepentant Liberal had some thoughts on this as well.

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Hi I'm new so I selected Pass. this is serious Apr 2012 #1
Welcome to DU! ellisonz Apr 2012 #2
Willing to go along with hosts if others want them eridani Apr 2012 #3
Thats pretty much where I'm at too. Joe Shlabotnik Apr 2012 #8
Polls now work on DU3! Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #4
Actually I don't think the correct term is a "slate" Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #5
I'm starting to think we're going to need them. ellisonz May 2012 #27
what forum? unionworks Apr 2012 #6
*smack* ellisonz Apr 2012 #7
AAAUGH! unionworks Apr 2012 #10
I voted no, at least for now. Things seem to be going along fine, although when things sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #9
Yes we should a single all powerful dictator. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #11
I told them to redecorate this place unionworks Apr 2012 #12
I think there will be a lot more lively discussions and reports, as we had before the winter sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #13
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #17
Seems to me that we haven't needed them yet. Zorra Apr 2012 #14
Other. Chan790 Apr 2012 #15
That's kind of my view of hosts if we had them. Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #18
Kitteh. All polls should be mandated to have this option. Seriously. freshwest Apr 2012 #16
I think a kitteh should be the host. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #19
Be careful what you wish for... pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #20
That cat could get an athoritarian thing going. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #22
Aji Suki Taka Hi Kone looks like she could be plotting... pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #23
Yes, he can be a trouble maker. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #24
Paging Dain Bramaged... Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #21
BUD DainBramaged May 2012 #25
Kick. ellisonz May 2012 #26
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