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I don't have time right now to read the discussion ellinsonz was having...but, my read of his last post would say I'd be completely to the opposite of him in his last statement. His last statement is why I didn't want to come to DU-3.

So..I certainly don't want to get into some "between thing" about this...(because ellinsonz was nice enough to come back and semi-support DU-2 and I have much respect for him because of that.

I think ellsonz is focusing much on his Polish heritage and experiences. I tend to focus on my own heritage and experiences having family here since just after the Revolution (and a few before) ...but British, Irish and French in heritage. Also growing up in the SouthEast US...I would have a longer history with my immigrants who go back to that time.

This is too hard to think about...but, I will say that ellisonze is wrong that we ARE IN AFRICA...in a BIG WAY with Africon! (he's a big boy and can take my criticisim ...because he's also seemed to be fair and balanced in his reasoning in encounters I've seen with him)

Anyway...Gotta think more about this...gotta go.. I'll get back later.

But, as much as I respect ellisonz's post....I would tend to go with what you say and counter
ellisonz's post later. It's truly a discussion that we Dems need to have with each other and there's not a good way to do it out here on DU-3, imho. Ellisonz's views are more in sync with here....and he's a fair person...but, I would tangle with him outside of here. I could send him my and I think he would get the humor. But, his post is very serious to me...and shows me how far apart we Democrats on issues these days. But, DISCUSSION is good ...between the three of us...I think...somehow. I gotta go...got project.
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You say:

. Hmm, I am stuck between you and ellisonz on this.


I can't support the assassination of foreign dictators in oil rich countries just because they are a thorn in our side when it comes to harvesting Africa for resources, and

I don't want the US to just sit back and say "it's OK to invade Libya because that's in our interests, it's not OK to send troops into the Congo because it's a hopeless mess there and it's in the interests of French and British secret services to keep the region in turmoil so they can continue to pillage the Congo's mineral resources."


"I can't support the assassination of foreign dictators in oil rich countries just because they are a thorn in our side when it comes to harvesting Africa for resources, and I don't want the US to just sit back and say "it's OK to invade Libya because that's in our interests, it's not OK to send troops into the Congo because it's a hopeless mess there and it's in the interests of French and British secret services to keep the region in turmoil so they can continue to pillage the Congo's mineral resources."