2016 Postmortem

TheBlackAdder

(29,110 posts) Mon Nov 28, 2016, 12:55 PM Nov 2016

The Battle Begins As Wisconsin Denies Jill Stein Request For Statewide Hand Recount [View all]

The Wisconsin Elections Commission has denied a request by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein for a hand recount of all ballots.

The AP reported, “The Wisconsin Elections Commission has voted unanimously to reject a request from Green Party candidate Jill Stein to conduct a hand recount of the presidential vote. Instead, the commission Monday voted to allow local election clerks to determine the method they would use for a recount.”

Stein can appeal, and ask a judge to order the recount by hand, but it appears that the plan is to simply run the same ballots through the voting machines again. Running the ballots through the machines again will accomplish nothing, as Stein is claiming that the election system is not secure and could have been compromised.

More at the jump...

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/28/battle-begins-wisconsin-denies-jill-stein-request-statewide-hand-recount.html

What kind of bullshit is this, to let the local clerks decide?

So, the guys padding the tallies get to decide if they are scrutinized? Banana Republic 101.

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The Battle Begins As Wisconsin Denies Jill Stein Request For Statewide Hand Recount [View all] TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 OP

What are they charging millions for? MattP Nov 2016 #1

It was a Jill Stein fundraiser/Money might get used for a recount fundraiser. Apex812 Nov 2016 #3

Well they cannot say it costs too much. Jill has the money to pay for a hand recount. UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #10

They are always hiding the actual ballots. sfwriter Nov 2016 #27

If I remember right, the Election Commission was recently jiggered by Walker's minions. shraby Nov 2016 #2

The commision chairmain is a Democrat and it's 3 Democrats and 3 Republicans mythology Nov 2016 #21

Why is the fact-free assertion that it's "unlikely to change anything" relevant? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #44

Walker just appointed all his buddies to the election commission womanofthehills Nov 2016 #35

Not true. former9thward Nov 2016 #47

Wonder whose funny little figures are in this dogindia Nov 2016 #4

hey if she is paying for a hand recount why not have a hand recount? UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #5

Exactly. And why was it a unanimous decision by the commission? Not one patriot. TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #7

Why does the commission decide to do an improper recount? UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #11

The decision makes sense given the concerns are with electronic voting, not paper Amishman Nov 2016 #25

What?? comparing a hand count to a machine count will tell if the machines are accurate. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #41

You have this exactly backwards. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #45

So...no plan to appeal and ask a judge to order the recount by hand???? Farmgirl1961 Nov 2016 #6

I think that is still up in the air. TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #9

Can we put some pressure on this process and on Jill Stein to do this? Farmgirl1961 Nov 2016 #15

I'd guess it's in the works... Ellipsis Nov 2016 #20

Yes, she's going to sue Arazi Nov 2016 #24

Thanks for that link red dog 1 Nov 2016 #29

Praise be... nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #40

FUCK MY GOVERNOR jodymarie aimee Nov 2016 #8

This is all the Wisconsin recount law provides for frazzled Nov 2016 #12

This is the fault of the WI election committee. WI can perform a full hand recount.Illegality Hidden UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #14

I posted this last week frazzled Nov 2016 #17

Well I say be mad at the WI election commission. They have the money to do a recount by hand. UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #19

The biggest concern is with the dre machines. Tiggeroshii Nov 2016 #18

Well Jill Stein has the money to pay for it so the lack of money is no excuse. UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #16

You don't get to tell us to be mad at Stein. That's YOUR opinion and worth as much KittyWampus Nov 2016 #26

Whoa! frazzled Nov 2016 #28

Not facts, assertions. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #46

Shocked! I am shocked I tell you! tandem5 Nov 2016 #13

better donate more , she is going to need lots of money jmg257 Nov 2016 #22

That is how the law is written forthemiddle Nov 2016 #23

#WHATARETHEYHIDING zonkers Nov 2016 #30

Democrats on the Wisconsin Elections Commission .. red dog 1 Nov 2016 #31

The WI Election Board has 3 Democrats and 3 Repugs deminwi Nov 2016 #32

It's up to each country now to decide on a hand count womanofthehills Nov 2016 #37

There was ONE Programmer for the Wisconsin Machines... cureautismnow Nov 2016 #33

wow. and has *anybody* else looked at that software? doubt it. what a joke. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #39

Jill Stein should ask for a "risk-limiting" audit red dog 1 Nov 2016 #34

78 counties - up to each county if they will do a hand count womanofthehills Nov 2016 #36

72 Ellipsis Nov 2016 #43

nothing to see here folks, move along... nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #38

Always clear that auditing the election would not be easy. NT. andym Nov 2016 #42

Wtf, Wisconsin?!!?!!?!!! AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #48