2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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40. Bingo! As I've written in this thread and elsewhere...

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:56 PM

Nov 2016

...a substantial portion of the electorate cannot be reached by the Democratic Party. People who think it's just a matter of educating folks, of presenting facts to the average Trump supporter, clearly do not grasp reality or how humans work. Facts backfire.

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The Democratic Party is for social AND economic justice. It isn't an "either/or" situation! [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2016 OP

There was nothing wrong with the message, platform, campaign or candidate. ucrdem Nov 2016 #1

Well, there were some real problems. Here they are: RBInMaine Nov 2016 #3

Those are myths. She won bigly. Mistakes were made but in the voting rights department. ucrdem Nov 2016 #4

a million! BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #5

Absolutely. ucrdem Nov 2016 #7

But, that is our democracy. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #13

Not entirely correct in my view. Hillary herself ... KPN Nov 2016 #19

Sounds like a lot of denial to me. KPN Nov 2016 #18

A lot of that going around lately. n/t paleotn Nov 2016 #27

Perhaps, but the Wagging finger smilie probably won't help your case. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #51

You are right -- it was a reaction to a couple of other folks' emojis that ... KPN Nov 2016 #57

We're only human. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #59

Obviously, Midwestern states were taken for granted.... paleotn Nov 2016 #26

Sorry, RB, Hillary could BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #6

Yes, read it and weep. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #11

OMG THAT IS EXCELLENT! BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #17

Good article, but ... KPN Nov 2016 #24

I agree with the alternate reality based on fundigelical religion.... paleotn Nov 2016 #31

Yep, the rural rust belt will never vote for Democratic presidential candidates gollygee Nov 2016 #52

Lol the rust belt states were blue realmirage Nov 2016 #60

The states are generally blue but NOT because of rural areas! gollygee Nov 2016 #62

Agreed. Dustlawyer Nov 2016 #10

Agreed! Although ... KPN Nov 2016 #23

Yup! We need to ignore the naysayers and work to make this happen ourselves. KPN Nov 2016 #25

The campaign gambled, and the campaign lost.... vi5 Nov 2016 #30

I can agree with this, I posted several rants against Podesta et al radius777 Nov 2016 #45

K & R n/t TubbersUK Nov 2016 #2

The loudest people shouting to change the Democratic Party have never supported the Democratic Party baldguy Nov 2016 #8

a million! eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #48

Hillary DID have a strong message for both social and economic justice. pnwmom Nov 2016 #9

Sadly I agree. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #12

Don't forget... Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #15

Hillary did have a relatively strong economic message. KPN Nov 2016 #22

She didn't connect and yet his racist, sexist message wasn't a problem. pnwmom Nov 2016 #42

Yes, it tells us what was more important for some people. KPN Nov 2016 #56

Bingo! As I've written in this thread and elsewhere... Garrett78 Nov 2016 #40

That's a really interesting, if depressing, piece. Thanks! n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #41

Sure thing. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #43

Yes, she had both while someone else kept saying that the social issues weren't important. JTFrog Nov 2016 #55

Thank you. whathehell Nov 2016 #14

Perfect! KPN Nov 2016 #21

These are all side issues..... The real problem is voting machines being hacked UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #16

Kudos for pointing out what should be obvious ... KPN Nov 2016 #20

Obama managed to balance both messages just fine... vi5 Nov 2016 #28

Yes, but in this election that did not happen, and now in dealing with the aftermath, Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #34

No, I agree completely.... vi5 Nov 2016 #36

2012 was a different universe radius777 Nov 2016 #46

I absolutely agree Beearewhyain Nov 2016 #29

It definitely is not. Thank you for posting this. Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #32

I think North Carolina proved you need both social and eco justice Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #33

Democrats writing off half the electorate many a good man Nov 2016 #35

Trump won't be lowering their taxes. He's going to be slashing the taxes pnwmom Nov 2016 #44

working whites voted Dem back then because the party turned a blind eye radius777 Nov 2016 #47

We've got a ways to go before we can claim to respect ALL cultures Dems to Win Nov 2016 #37

It's the messenger, not the message. Look at Trump for proof of that. randome Nov 2016 #38

Yes bravenak Nov 2016 #49

A substantial portion of (mostly white) America cannot be reached by the Democratic Party. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #39

True but that isn't an excuse to stop contesting for the ones you can even if they look like the TheKentuckian Nov 2016 #61

correct. it is not either/or or us vs. them. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #50

Personally, I think they've focused on social issues more than economic ones, CrispyQ Nov 2016 #53

Thank you RBInMaine for the positive and correct message. nt/kr PufPuf23 Nov 2016 #54

Makes perfect sense mtnsnake Nov 2016 #58