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cyclonefence

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9. I believe it comes from the medieval church
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 11:15 AM
Sep 2024

which held that a sinful priest could still administer effective communion, confession, baptism--all the rites. Here is a contemporary reference (edited to add: "contemporary" as in our time, not medieval time):

“We have to be in grace to receive Communion. What about the priest who is giving us the Eucharist?” asked Gill. In the wake of news about scandals in the church, this question might be one that some of the faithful are wondering. If a priest is in a state of mortal sin, does his celebration of the sacraments continue to be valid?

“It’s still valid because if a bad priest says a Mass, it’s still a good Mass; because it’s Christ who works the sacrament. If that priest does and intends what the Church does and intends, then it is valid,” explained Father Richard Simon, host of Father Simon SaysTM on Relevant Radio®."


https://relevantradio.com/2018/08/the-holiness-of-the-priest-doesnt-affect-the-validity-of-the-mass/

If I come across a papal bull or something, I'll post it.

There's also something called "Rasputinism," which we find rampant among American protestants, which holds that the greater the sins committed, the greater the triumph of faith when the sinner repents or otherwise gets his act together.

Then there's that thing in the Bible about the prodigal son.






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If criminals hired an ad agency C_U_L8R Sep 2024 #1
Religion is made up stuff, this is more of that. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #2
I have heard personally this from evangelicals; because they continue to insist that Trump is a Messiah. flying_wahini Sep 2024 #3
Usually people chosen by God have asked for forgiveness Walleye Sep 2024 #4
Correct- when asked at a religious conference if he had ever prayed for forgiveness he said there flying_wahini Sep 2024 #8
Yet the Christians slobber all over him, when asking for forgiveness is one of their basic tenets Walleye Sep 2024 #10
Someone pulled it out of their ass. n/t Eyeball_Kid Sep 2024 #5
... after being caught doing bad stuff Attilatheblond Sep 2024 #12
Found this.......... Smilo Sep 2024 #6
It's not that G*D chooses an imperfect man, but that he chooses all of us to do his "perfect deeds" ... marble falls Sep 2024 #7
So, if I nail the doors shut on a school full of children and set fire to it... Girard442 Sep 2024 #15
Actually no. Committing sin with the intention of asking forgiveness is a sin itself. The "unforgivable sin", ... marble falls Sep 2024 #19
I believe it comes from the medieval church cyclonefence Sep 2024 #9
Imperfect men... Raven123 Sep 2024 #11
In reality atreides1 Sep 2024 #13
I may have heard that recently from an apologist about the Crusades but can't find exactly that. They dance all around brewens Sep 2024 #14
I have been watching "The Atheist Experience" PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2024 #16
Imperfect people use God to... keithbvadu2 Sep 2024 #17
The imperfect deed mountain grammy Sep 2024 #18
Watch Bad Faith! Mega Pastors wrote Trumps sermon! MartyTheGreek Sep 2024 #20
Scoundrels have used it for a long time in order to justify their own outrageous behavior Warpy Sep 2024 #21
Evangelical "prophets" pushing the King Cyrus shyte. Lars39 Sep 2024 #22
There is a thread about the scumbag deeds of a pastor. usonian Sep 2024 #23
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