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6. Interesting question.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:10 PM
Jul 2022

What kind of evidence would be counted as non-fragmentary?

It seems that finding an animal reservoir in nature is not always possible. So, drawing a straight line from an animal in nature to an animal in the market would be a very difficult thing to accomplish.

That's why the above question is a retort to your question. Absolute certainty regarding the exact time and place of the initial zoonotic event is not easily to be had.

Public Health | Opinion
Why We Don’t Know the Animal Origins of the Coronavirus
Viruses that “spill over” to people do not stick around in animals, so finding true sources takes years of careful work, an expert says

By Christine K. Johnson on June 9, 2021

Over the past century, many notable viruses have emerged from animals to cause widespread illness and death in people. The list includes the pathogens behind pandemic influenza, Ebola, Zika, West Nile fever, SARS and now COVID, brought on by the virus SARS-CoV-2. For all of these microbes, the animal species that served as the original source of spillover was hard to find. And for many, that source still has not been conclusively identified. Confirming the circumstances and key participants involved in the early emergence of an infectious disease is a holy grail of this type of scientific inquiry: difficult to track and even more difficult to prove.

In ideal conditions, the first human cases involved in a zoonotic disease spillover (when a pathogen jumps from animals to humans) are reported in connection to animals present at the time of the event. This happens when the cluster of cases is large enough to be investigated and reported. But it is not necessarily the first time spillover occurred. Most spillovers are limited to more narrow animal-to-human cases. Once pathogens start to spread by human-to-human transmission, the tracks leading back to the initial animal source grow faint and become nearly impossible to follow.

Thus, animal sources for viruses that cause pandemics often remain shrouded in mystery. For some viruses, animal sources have been implicated after years or decades of large-scale international investigations. For other viruses, animal sources are highly suspected, but enough evidence has yet to be produced to pinpoint an exact species or range of species. Typically, lines of evidence are drawn over time through a trove of peer-reviewed publications, each building on the research that came before it, using more precise methods to narrow the field of possible sources. The scientific process is naturally self-correcting. Often seemingly contradictory hypotheses can initially flood the field, especially for high-impact outbreaks. But eventually, some of them are ruled out, and lines of investigation are narrowed.

Frequently, this investigative research only points to a group of suspected species, possibly a few most likely genera or, more often, an entire taxonomic order. That is because the virus has not actually been found in the suspected animal source in such cases. The evidence instead revolves around closely related viruses or their most recent common ancestors, based on inferred evolutionary history. If a virus was found in animal samples after the same pathogen caused widespread transmission among humans, it is possible that the virus spilled from humans back into animals. That happens often enough with viruses that can infect a range of animal species that the possibility needs to be presumed until it is ruled out.

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/finding-conclusive-animal-origins-of-the-coronavirus-will-take-time/

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