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zipplewrath

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24. Well, strictly speaking they're correct

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:01 AM

Jun 2019

Asserting there is no "god" or after life or "other worldly" consequence isn't provable. There literally is "no way of knowing", at least for most of the larger faiths out there. But as you suggest, the faithful should recognize that this condition is intentional on their part for the strict purpose of avoiding having any other basis for the belief than faith. Disbelievers on the other hand are just making a deductive conclusion, understanding that someday they could be proven wrong. Of course disbelievers on the other hand should recognize that there is a certain circularity to their deduction. It can't be proven because it's not suppose to be provable so the lack of evidence is evidence that it doesn't exist, even though there isn't supposed to be evidence.

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For Those Who Argue That the First Amendment Protects [View all] MineralMan Jun 2019 OP

amen! very well thought out. Too bad the lawyers can't think. demigoddess Jun 2019 #1

I don't know that that particular issue has actually been tested. MineralMan Jun 2019 #2

Although his crimes were different, trev Jun 2019 #3

Your correct zipplewrath Jun 2019 #4

Is there a higher law that requires priests not to rape children? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #5

RCC has defended the confession, repeatedly stopdiggin Jun 2019 #8

We already have a resident member who fills us in on the RCC's position on the subject Major Nikon Jun 2019 #10

you mistake me for an apologist stopdiggin Jun 2019 #12

Didn't say or imply that, but it would be an easy mistake to make Major Nikon Jun 2019 #13

We also have a resident misframer who loves to build with straw. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #15

They're the same person Lordquinton Jun 2019 #30

And very gifted. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #31

Yes zipplewrath Jun 2019 #11

To be fair that's how most religion exerts control Major Nikon Jun 2019 #14

Yup zipplewrath Jun 2019 #16

Sounds a bit like prosperity gospel Major Nikon Jun 2019 #17

Roughly the same thing zipplewrath Jun 2019 #18

The difference is the level of delusion required Major Nikon Jun 2019 #19

Mostly "magical thinking" zipplewrath Jun 2019 #20

Most belief systems include some sort of philosophy Major Nikon Jun 2019 #21

Usually a fundamental feature zipplewrath Jun 2019 #22

Quickly followed by the "your position isn't provable either" Major Nikon Jun 2019 #23

Well, strictly speaking they're correct zipplewrath Jun 2019 #24

I don't even make it that far Major Nikon Jun 2019 #25

My one real caveat zipplewrath Jun 2019 #26

Well, given that such a thing has never occurred, nor has any witness MineralMan Jun 2019 #27

Most atheists don't assert no god exists Major Nikon Jun 2019 #28

I agree on both points zipplewrath Jun 2019 #29

No right is absolute. trotsky Jun 2019 #6

Perhaps there should be a constitutional right to children not getting raped or killed Major Nikon Jun 2019 #7

Yes, gun nuts and religious nuts. MineralMan Jun 2019 #9