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Pendrench

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37. Hi Major Nikon - Sorry for the delay responding (I was out most of yesterday and this morning)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:12 PM

Jun 2019

As you mention in your question - I do believe that Jesus was/is omnipotent and capable of hocus pocus that would have mitigated his suffering...yet he chose to make himself fully human so that we could better relate to him (and he could relate to us) by experiencing both the joys of being human as well as the suffering that humans face. To that end, he chose to suffer as we all do (although to varying degrees) and ultimately death.

I also believe that this is why he asked himself why had he forsaken himself - to illustrate that his human nature did have fear and doubts (as we all do) so he showed how we - like him - can also reach out to the divine during our times of sorrow and pain.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on this - I know that we will never agree on topics such as this, but I do appreciate the opportunity to discuss this with you.

In any event, thank you again!

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim

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Jesus died for your sins [View all] Major Nikon Jun 2019 OP

More "insight". guillaumeb Jun 2019 #1

It was probably a metaphor, anyway. The Genealogist Jun 2019 #19

Evidently all the parts which make no sense are really metaphorical Major Nikon Jun 2019 #30

Math is hard. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #61

But he didn't stay alive for very long, either. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #2

According to those who claim to have special "insight" he's still alive and well Major Nikon Jun 2019 #3

This sounds like a general attack on theists. Calling theists delusional. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8

illogical nt msongs Jun 2019 #11

Denial? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #13

It's not all that illogical if you consider the benefit of pretending to be a victim Major Nikon Jun 2019 #14

It is not an attack on theists at all. MineralMan Jun 2019 #28

You just don't understand Major Nikon Jun 2019 #31

Non-theists are an important part of the Democratic coalition, too. trotsky Jun 2019 #35

Who ever said otherwise? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #43

I'm glad you can finally admit your posts about the Chinese government are a distraction. trotsky Jun 2019 #46

True to form on your part. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #48

Indeed, calling out your hypocrisy every single time. trotsky Jun 2019 #49

I am certain that you feel that is what you are doing. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #50

And I'm certain that you recognize it's what I am doing. trotsky Jun 2019 #51

Sounds like privileged whinging. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #39

Says the US citizen. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #44

Less than you I'd wager. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #45

Are you not also one such citizen? Do tell... MineralMan Jun 2019 #53

He might only be a Canadian citizen. trotsky Jun 2019 #54

Well, perhaps so. For some reason, I thought he MineralMan Jun 2019 #55

Whatabout those other privileges? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #59

Do you have privilege? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #57

I never denied that. MineralMan Jun 2019 #58

How many broken records CAN you play simultaneously? AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #62

He played the role of universal scapegoat so that humans would stop scapegoating applegrove Jun 2019 #4

If I may I'd like to use this for one of my MEME threads underpants Jun 2019 #5

... Major Nikon Jun 2019 #7

While I understand your point and often enjoy your posts tymorial Jun 2019 #6

Betrays a much simpler explanation Major Nikon Jun 2019 #12

You speak as if no one else has ever suffered things like that. Mariana Jun 2019 #22

to say that he experienced the full range of human suffering... uriel1972 Jun 2019 #32

Evidence is sketchy. dchill Jun 2019 #9

Assumes that Jesus was a real historic person, vlyons Jun 2019 #10

Metaphorical Jesus has far more super powers Major Nikon Jun 2019 #15

But... czarjak Jun 2019 #16

Some are more susceptible to charlatanism Major Nikon Jun 2019 #17

That claim is pretty much an impeachable offense jmowreader Jun 2019 #21

Justification for their hateful ignorance, period. czarjak Jun 2019 #23

Yes, but there was probably a bowl game or something that weekend. n/t The Genealogist Jun 2019 #18

Football is done by Easter Major Nikon Jun 2019 #20

I will defer to the great prophet edhopper Jun 2019 #24

Hi Major Nikon - Thank you for initiating this discussion. Pendrench Jun 2019 #25

How can someone who is allegedly a deity have doubt? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #29

Hi Major Nikon - Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment. Pendrench Jun 2019 #33

The question still stands unanswered Major Nikon Jun 2019 #34

Hi Major Nikon - Sorry for the delay responding (I was out most of yesterday and this morning) Pendrench Jun 2019 #37

So he was showing us that he could reach out to himself? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #38

Yes...that is another way of restating what I said. Pendrench Jun 2019 #40

Sounds like multiple personality disorder Major Nikon Jun 2019 #41

Could be - definitely a possibility. Pendrench Jun 2019 #42

The stories definitely portray Jesus as having fear and doubt. Mariana Jun 2019 #47

The stories also say nothing to incriminate Rome. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #52

It was a bit dicey, after all at the time Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #56

Especially when one considers they'd just murdered god. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #60

Thanks jesus, for giving up a weekend. Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #26

Ha! I'm keeping that. shanny Jun 2019 #27

What about the poor saps edhopper Jun 2019 #36

Not even a weekend DavidDvorkin Jun 2019 #63