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marylandblue

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15. I don't separate belief from knowledge and I find the word "belief" ambiguous

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:46 PM

Mar 2019

I think knowledge is probabilistic. Things believed with high certainty are "knowledge," those with low certainty are called "belief" and if one is very uncertain on any subject one is 'agnostic." I am uncertain about divinities, therefore agnostic.

The chart with 4 boxes doesn't allow for a probabilistic knowledge model, so it makes no sense to me.

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Gnostic Agnostic.. [View all] Soph0571 Mar 2019 OP

Being an atheist is rather like being a socialist. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #1

Nothing wrong with implicit atheism Major Nikon Mar 2019 #6

Words exist because they are useful in everyday life marylandblue Mar 2019 #23

Its usefulness is severely diminished by theists who can't count to zero. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #25

You can play around all day with the absurdities of language and people's misunderstandings marylandblue Mar 2019 #30

The only question with "theists" is what kind of magic they believe in, but that is a commonality. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #36

Where do you put someone who just doesn't know if there's a god? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #2

Don't know and don't care is an apatheist Major Nikon Mar 2019 #3

I admit there is a possibility that a god exists. Mariana Mar 2019 #8

I kinda think the Banana Cult might have some merit Major Nikon Mar 2019 #27

All that's required to be an atheist is lack of belief in deities Major Nikon Mar 2019 #4

Put me in the lower left quadrant. Agnostic Atheist. Willing to let others believe what they want erronis Mar 2019 #5

I don't see how Gnostic Atheism even begins to make sense. Ron Obvious Mar 2019 #7

It makes just as much sense as gnostic theism Mariana Mar 2019 #9

Theists usually refer to "Revealed Knowledge" Ron Obvious Mar 2019 #12

I'm not absolutely certain there's no spaceship behind the Hale Bopp comet Major Nikon Mar 2019 #13

I don't believe in the existence of deities. MineralMan Mar 2019 #10

Gnostic should refer to knowing from experience. Lots of people, myself included, have Karadeniz Mar 2019 #11

Strange you'd accept the one making an incredible claim and reject the one that doesn't Major Nikon Mar 2019 #14

I'm sorry, but I don't understand. What incredible claim do I accept? The medical doctor's? Actually Karadeniz Mar 2019 #17

You described it twice Major Nikon Mar 2019 #18

I have a serious question. Mariana Mar 2019 #16

The doctor wrote a book. She could be an unscrupulous liar. She could have studied Karadeniz Mar 2019 #19

The doctor wrote a book? Awesome. Mariana Mar 2019 #21

...and made money from it Major Nikon Mar 2019 #22

There's a lot of money being made from books like that. nt. Mariana Mar 2019 #31

There's a lot of money to be made from religion period Major Nikon Mar 2019 #33

Not to mention people readily believe what they are conditioned to believe Major Nikon Mar 2019 #20

I don't separate belief from knowledge and I find the word "belief" ambiguous marylandblue Mar 2019 #15

Neither am I absolutely certain Xenu didn't bring billions of people to Teegeeack (Earth) in a DC-8 Major Nikon Mar 2019 #24

I am 100% certain that Xenu did no such thing. marylandblue Mar 2019 #26

I'm not sure how you can say that with zero proof Major Nikon Mar 2019 #28

Because the universe would have to work in a very different way than it does marylandblue Mar 2019 #29

Actually I'd say the reverse is true Major Nikon Mar 2019 #32

It's not just that there is no evidence that there are thetans marylandblue Mar 2019 #34

That sounds like your argument so I'm trying to understand it Major Nikon Mar 2019 #35

I don't ridicule any beliefs myself. If someone says they have evidence of something, marylandblue Mar 2019 #37