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Soph0571

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Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:33 PM Feb 2019

When is hearing voices a delusion and when is it religion? [View all]

Have you heard the old joke?

When you talk to God, we call it prayer, but when God talks to you, we call it schizophrenia.

Joan of Arc had God speak to her. She went down in history.

Conservative politicians all claim that they make decisions based on conversations they have with God. They may well also go down in history, but not for the same reasons as Joan of Arc.

Peter heard God talk to him on the road to Damascus. Based on how he then twisted Christ’s teachings to suit his own interpretation of the what he wanted Christianity to look, one might wonder if he was following Gods instruction or listening to his own ego? Not sure he was mad, maybe just bad?

So, what determines who is speaking to God? Or who is speaking to the little people who live inside one’s head? I suppose in some ways it really does not matter, unless of course one is listening to the voices inside one’s head and using it to try and determine public policy. Then we get to ask the question: When is hearing voices a delusion and when is it religion?

So, does this mean the people who rule you are delusional? Logic 101... hehe

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Is there a difference? procon Feb 2019 #1
No Major Nikon Feb 2019 #2
What's the difference? Does it matter? MineralMan Feb 2019 #3
Those who believe that "God" speaks, or has spoken to certain people PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #4
It's simple really Runningdawg Feb 2019 #5
Just for clarification... Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #6
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Many prophets and saints were mentally ill marylandblue Feb 2019 #7
I'm disappointed...😔 sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #8
No reason to be. I consider insanity to be a virtue. marylandblue Feb 2019 #11
Disappointment that you in agreement with "coupling mental disorder with being a 'religionist". sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #12
Sure, that can be. And my comments weren't meant to disparage religion. marylandblue Feb 2019 #22
Rational. Key word. Yes, many who purportedly call and believe themselves to be sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #24
Can you name a beatified Eastern Orthodox 'Saint' that is/was considered mentally ill. sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #13
Well, since I can't name any Eastern Orthodox Saints, that would be no. marylandblue Feb 2019 #14
Your last para. sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #17
In the context of Christian culture, seeing and hearing things "in the spirit" is perfectly normal marylandblue Feb 2019 #18
You opine that St. Paul was afflicted with a mental disorder. sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #19
Sure, it could be non-literal or nothing at all to do with mental illness. marylandblue Feb 2019 #20
I want to say, "Oh, for God's sake!" sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #21
Well I think religion does draw on what came before, so sure, why not. marylandblue Feb 2019 #23
That word 'think'. I feel more like I'm 'comfortable' with that sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #25
There was a doctrine put about within the early Roman Church... uriel1972 Feb 2019 #29
And the Feast of the Nativity was and still is in some Old Calendar Churches sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #30
"on or about"... uriel1972 Feb 2019 #31
I'm not going to look up exactly what you are referring to. sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #32
Typo: Paul ... Damascus Bretton Garcia Feb 2019 #10
It depends. MarvinGardens Feb 2019 #15
I am reminded of this quote from Sam Harris about George W. Bush: trotsky Feb 2019 #16
As per usual, Sam is wrong on this one. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #26
The voices inside my head always did say Shrub was crazy Major Nikon Feb 2019 #27
I hear voices occasionally... uriel1972 Feb 2019 #28
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