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Major Nikon

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8. That's exactly how indoctrination works

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:31 AM

Jan 2019

It's the ongoing application of carrot and stick coupled with the bombardment of doctrine. Remember all the "atheist reeducation" camps Gil constantly reminds us about? That's exactly what they are doing and for a significant number of adults it's highly effective. With children it's far more effective. Predictably Gil has a problem with it when atheists do it, but completely dismisses the exact same behavior when far more theists do it to those who are even more vulnerable. Remember the "spare the rod" verse in the bible? It's about beating god into your kids and it happens every day all over the world to great effect.

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This Six-Year-Old Boy Told a Church Audience, "I'm Tired of This Church" [View all] NeoGreen Jan 2019 OP

At least he was honest! Ohiogal Jan 2019 #1

Apparently that is not a respected value Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #6

Why churches aren't drawing the young. marble falls Jan 2019 #2

I can't imagine Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #7

Well, I'm certain that punishing him will make him like church more. trotsky Jan 2019 #3

That's exactly how indoctrination works Major Nikon Jan 2019 #8

The beatings will continue until morale improves Pope George Ringo II Jan 2019 #11

He's 6 and there,s no xbox Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #4

I've known very few kids who enjoy being taught anything. Igel Jan 2019 #12

Bravo - It says it in the Bible packman Jan 2019 #5

Except they didn't follow his lead. Mariana Jan 2019 #10

As bad as some of you think Church was edhopper Jan 2019 #9

I think it's called sacramentalism Bretton Garcia Jan 2019 #20

I thought it was God edhopper Jan 2019 #22

And if you were Catholic, God only heard prayers said in Latin. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #52

When I was young (I'm showing my age, here) Ohiogal Jan 2019 #34

How long were services? edhopper Jan 2019 #36

between 20 minutes and an hour depending on what day of the week rurallib Jan 2019 #56

synagogue edhopper Jan 2019 #58

We used to hear stories of Eastern rite Catholics going for hours on end. rurallib Jan 2019 #59

seriously edhopper Jan 2019 #60

but the vestments were so colorful! rurallib Jan 2019 #57

Childism. littlemissmartypants Jan 2019 #13

And this proves what exactly? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #14

kids are smarter than you Cartoonist Jan 2019 #15

Dialogue in action. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #16

You receive exactly the level of dialog you have encouraged. trotsky Jan 2019 #65

Your posting history here is available to see. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #67

Yes, thank you for the reminder that you obsessively stalk everyone's posting history. trotsky Jan 2019 #68

More ad hominem. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #69

Whatever narrative makes you happy, I guess. n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #70

Is that your motto? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #71

You have convinced yourself. trotsky Jan 2019 #72

Religionists are willing to beat their children into submission Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #17

Generalizations make statements less accurate, thus less powerful. No Vested Interest Jan 2019 #18

Assuming "all" when not present Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #19

How indoctrination works Major Nikon Jan 2019 #21

We are all indoctrinated. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #23

Sounds like something someone who's been indoctrinated would say Major Nikon Jan 2019 #24

And your response sounds like: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #25

So why don't you call it socialization when atheists do it? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #26

It is socialization when anyone does it. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #28

You didn't answer the question Major Nikon Jan 2019 #30

I make no distinction between what is done. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #37

So it's OK to use a pejorative for beating the god out of adults... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #39

The gif perfectly describes your response. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #40

Oh look, a clever rework of the completely worn out, "I'm rubber, you're glue" line! Major Nikon Jan 2019 #41

No, a comment on the substance. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #42

Sure, because your predictable canned replies adds so much to the conversation Major Nikon Jan 2019 #43

Thus spake guillaumeb. MineralMan Jan 2019 #31

Simply noting what is obvious. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #38

See #39 MineralMan Jan 2019 #44

It's a story about something that happened. MineralMan Jan 2019 #45

Yet another insult from you. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #46

No insult. Questions, MineralMan Jan 2019 #47

No insult? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #48

That is advice, not an insult. MineralMan Jan 2019 #49

Of course. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #50

You should have thought about that harder Major Nikon Jan 2019 #62

And your reply proves your interest in dialogue. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #66

The dialogue is you making half-fast accusations you can't begin to support Major Nikon Jan 2019 #73

That's why several here have him on ignore Major Nikon Jan 2019 #61

I ignore nobody. I'd rather point out their errors. MineralMan Jan 2019 #74

I agree, up to a point Major Nikon Jan 2019 #75

Apparently that some think it is fine to "fire on" a kid because he doesn't like being in church The Genealogist Jan 2019 #53

Take him outside. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #54

Certainly better than beating him or her The Genealogist Jan 2019 #55

Pope Frank says it's "beautiful" as long as you don't hit kids in the face Major Nikon Jan 2019 #64

And yet you insist on kindler-gentler language used to describe beating god into children Major Nikon Jan 2019 #63

Obviously parenting lessons needed. elleng Jan 2019 #27

So Those 2 Adults Completely Ruined Christmas For The Boy Me. Jan 2019 #29

First, I wouldn't want any pastor taking my kid to the bathroom. Hav Jan 2019 #32

Completely mishandled,but now the boy MineralMan Jan 2019 #33

What a lame argument for their religion DFW Jan 2019 #35

I was booted out of Sunday School when I was 8 for "asking too many questions" catbyte Jan 2019 #51

Ah, so they hit him. Brilliant. JNelson6563 Jan 2019 #76