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gtar100

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24. I cannot honestly come to the same conclusion.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 04:02 PM
Dec 2018

I see religion as a framework (as well). It's a framework for spiritual practice, particularly shared spiritual experience. That to me is closer to its core. And its abuse by individuals and institutions is a tragedy but also symbolic of its inherent power. It's not religion that is bad but its misuse. Just as government itself is not bad, but its misuse is. Corporations are not at their core bad but people misusing this business structure for ill or with bad consequences, intended or not, is bad.

There are so many analogies of human frameworks that can be used for productivity, or enhancements to our quality of life, that can be and are abused by opportunistic, deceiving bullshitters for their own gains at the expense of others. Religion happens to be one of the more powerful ones. As social animals, we humans will naturally seek shared community experience particularly about questions of life, reality, its origins and our place in all of it.

So I do not believe religion can be gotten rid of. Maybe in name but it will crop up again because it is a fundamental expression of being human. Sucks that it's abused...big time. But its core, its archetype, its essence is something humans express their potential through, good or bad. That's how I see it anyway.

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Religion is man made. True Blue American Dec 2018 #1
christians fire people and I heard one threaten to kill right after church. demigoddess Dec 2018 #26
And now Pompeo True Blue American Dec 2018 #28
Powerful warfare empedocles Dec 2018 #2
Yeah, just not seeing it. Igel Dec 2018 #3
There is another significant difference in your analogy though Major Nikon Dec 2018 #4
Your are incorrect. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6
I'm talking about privilege. You are talking about totalitarianism. Major Nikon Dec 2018 #7
No, we are both talking about privilege. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
Sure it's just a coincidence the best examples you can name are totalitarian regimes Major Nikon Dec 2018 #12
My OP is not about religious people. It is about religion as a concept. DetlefK Dec 2018 #17
You obviously missed the point. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5
Nonsense Major Nikon Dec 2018 #8
Stalinist Russia, like China, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
Sure, I'm blaming theism for Stalinist Russia. Yeah, that's it. Major Nikon Dec 2018 #13
Stalinist Russia revived the Russian Orthodox Church. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #14
I think the talk is based on thoughts that came into his head. MineralMan Dec 2018 #15
Are you free of cognitive bias? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
No, of course I'm not. None of us are. MineralMan Dec 2018 #20
You are making the assumption guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21
Or, perhaps you have very little understanding of what I'm talking MineralMan Dec 2018 #22
Perhaps one of us cannot recognize something. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #23
Yeah like what name was called Major Nikon Dec 2018 #25
How is this any different from what religious leaders are doing? DetlefK Dec 2018 #16
My post acknowledged that. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19
Both are human endeavors. MineralMan Dec 2018 #11
I cannot honestly come to the same conclusion. gtar100 Dec 2018 #24
I simply see Religion True Blue American Dec 2018 #29
Antiquity Karadeniz Dec 2018 #27
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