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DetlefK

(16,504 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 05:05 AM Dec 2018

I just realized that religion is at its very philosophical core no more than political warfare. [View all]

What is politics good for?

We have groups of people, we have interactions between those people, we have ressources, we have territory...
"Politics" is how we organize this. Which people are what. What those interactions between people are and not are. Who gets what.

By taking care of such topics, "politics" stakes the claim that it has the AUTHORITY to even do that. This claim to authority is the essential foundation of any political act.



Religion merely extends this political power-struggle from physical people, physical interactions, physical ressources and physical territory to the spiritual realm.

Religion is about controlling, taming and ruling the spiritual realm by claiming the authority to define what there is therein.
Religion is about defining which people are what on a spiritual level.
Religion is about defining which spiritual interactions there are.
Religion is about defining how spiritual ressources (e.g. heaven and hell) get distributed.

By exercising the opportunity to define the spiritual realm, an instance of religion/belief claims AUTHORITY over the spiritual realm. Just as in politics, the claim to authority is the essential foundation of any religious act.

And that is why different religions do not get along: They don't want to. Because religion is a POLITICAL CONFLICT over hypothetical inhabitants and hypothetical interactions and hypothetical ressources and hypothetical territory in the spiritual realm.


If you do not understand what I mean, imagine religions to be nations and the spiritual realm as a planet.
Religions get founded and eventually die when they run out of citizens, just like nations.
Religions evolve, split and merge, just like nations.
Religions are at conflict with each other because multiple religions claim authority over the same things: Each religion claims the authority to rule what God is, to rule what he wants, to rule what a soul is, to rule how to properly worship, to rule what the afterlife is... These topics are the people/interactions/ressources/land I talked about.

Religion is essentially another expression of our desire to rule, to claim, to conquer and to dominate.






Thanks, guillaumeb, for the inspiration.

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Religion is man made. True Blue American Dec 2018 #1
christians fire people and I heard one threaten to kill right after church. demigoddess Dec 2018 #26
And now Pompeo True Blue American Dec 2018 #28
Powerful warfare empedocles Dec 2018 #2
Yeah, just not seeing it. Igel Dec 2018 #3
There is another significant difference in your analogy though Major Nikon Dec 2018 #4
Your are incorrect. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6
I'm talking about privilege. You are talking about totalitarianism. Major Nikon Dec 2018 #7
No, we are both talking about privilege. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
Sure it's just a coincidence the best examples you can name are totalitarian regimes Major Nikon Dec 2018 #12
My OP is not about religious people. It is about religion as a concept. DetlefK Dec 2018 #17
You obviously missed the point. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5
Nonsense Major Nikon Dec 2018 #8
Stalinist Russia, like China, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
Sure, I'm blaming theism for Stalinist Russia. Yeah, that's it. Major Nikon Dec 2018 #13
Stalinist Russia revived the Russian Orthodox Church. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #14
I think the talk is based on thoughts that came into his head. MineralMan Dec 2018 #15
Are you free of cognitive bias? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
No, of course I'm not. None of us are. MineralMan Dec 2018 #20
You are making the assumption guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21
Or, perhaps you have very little understanding of what I'm talking MineralMan Dec 2018 #22
Perhaps one of us cannot recognize something. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #23
Yeah like what name was called Major Nikon Dec 2018 #25
How is this any different from what religious leaders are doing? DetlefK Dec 2018 #16
My post acknowledged that. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19
Both are human endeavors. MineralMan Dec 2018 #11
I cannot honestly come to the same conclusion. gtar100 Dec 2018 #24
I simply see Religion True Blue American Dec 2018 #29
Antiquity Karadeniz Dec 2018 #27
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