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MineralMan

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28. Humans behave as individuals.

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:51 PM

Dec 2018

They can be led by leaders of groups, but they still behave as individuals. Religions claim to promote the good, but end up promoting what is obviously not good. I am unaffected by that. Their followers follow their lead. Their behavior is affected by the leadership of their religions. The human misery that has caused is visible and has been visible for centuries. You are acting as an apooigist for that.

A pox on it all, Guy! A pox.

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Report on slavery is only a start for Southern Baptists' reckoning with racism [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP

While your last point is correct, Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #1

Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2

The Bible gave them plenty of material to work with. Mariana Dec 2018 #4

Proponents of Jim Crow laws also found biblical inspiration Major Nikon Dec 2018 #5

Yet while the Catholic Church continues to struggle with systemic sexual abuse... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #6

Do you expect any institution to change immediately? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #8

How much time must pass between two arbitrary points before one may realistically expect change? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #10

You made the objection. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #14

You made the objection. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #35

And now you add misframing. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #40

And now you add nothing. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #44

Some Buddhists would say that it takes eons vlyons Dec 2018 #29

Some Buddhists wouldn't be understanding the issue, then. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #36

Buddhists understand the issue perfectly vlyons Dec 2018 #37

Except they have demonstrated two times in a row that they do not. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #38

I have no idea to what you refer vlyons Dec 2018 #42

That's because you're too busy proselytizing... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #43

No I don't think that at all vlyons Dec 2018 #45

Uh-huh. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #46

You criticized Boston Atheists for ousting a Trump supporter. trotsky Dec 2018 #11

How many decades are needed to make change happen? MineralMan Dec 2018 #12

Change comes slowly. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15

So, how many generations will this change take, Guy? MineralMan Dec 2018 #17

How long until racists accept that racism in the US is illegal? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19

Perhaps when their churches stop promoting it? MineralMan Dec 2018 #20

I also see the conection between racism and patriotism. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22

I am a patriot. I am not a racist. MineralMan Dec 2018 #24

You are diverting from the topic. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #26

Humans behave as individuals. MineralMan Dec 2018 #28

OK. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #31

You didn't find that compelling? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #39

I found it to be far too simplistic. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41

Simpler than "humans are gonna human"? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #47

Observations about human conduct applying to all humans sounds simple. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #50

He's diverting from the topic? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #48

You are diverting from the topic. Mariana Dec 2018 #49

This subthread is a diversion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #51

They found that religious justification within Christianity, g. trotsky Dec 2018 #7

IIRC the 2017 SBC annual meeting fought over taking down Confederate monuments bobbieinok Dec 2018 #3

True. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9

And, yet, the SBC is the largest protestant denomination in the USA. MineralMan Dec 2018 #13

You are free to dismiss progress guillaumeb Dec 2018 #16

What progress has Christianity made recently, Guy? MineralMan Dec 2018 #18

Are you asking what progress humans have made on this issue? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21

Clearly, I am not asking that. I am asking what the Christian religion is MineralMan Dec 2018 #23

Change is slow in institutional settings. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #25

And I suggest that the organized church is morally bankrupt. MineralMan Dec 2018 #27

Your claim is understood. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #30

It is well understood by thoughtful people. MineralMan Dec 2018 #32

And now you revert to insult. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #33

Who do you think I'm insulting, Guy? MineralMan Dec 2018 #34

Racist mysoganists............. Ernesto Dec 2018 #52

Do you feel that change is possible? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #53

OnPointRadio/ NPR did a call in show this week irisblue Dec 2018 #54

I am not a Baptist either. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #55