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marylandblue

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35. Didn't make any complaints about atheism just accepted what atheists usually say.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 04:34 PM
Dec 2018

The social meaning I said had no name, I then identified down thread as a "grand narrative." I need to clarify that. We have a thing called American society - shared history, social norms, and a sense of common destiny as a group of people. Secular nations generally have this sort of thing and if the basic narrative breaks down, there can be conflict. That's what I mean by a grand narrative.

We see this in the UK. Are they part of some sort of European superstate, or are they different from The Continent? You can make a common destiny out of either one, but they have to choose now and can't decide. Therefore they have a conflict. For better or worse, they will eventually go one way or another, or maybe find an alternative that transcends both on a sort of Hegelian synthesis.

We find similar tensions in America and elsewhere these days.

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Not all of it is twaddle. He's right about this: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #1
Well, I changed the title. I replaced "Twaddle" with "Codswallop." MineralMan Dec 2018 #2
I disagree. Trump will be replaced by something or someone else The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #3
It has always happened. Different crowds, different tyrannical characters. MineralMan Dec 2018 #4
That' what got my attention... 2naSalit Dec 2018 #26
I think he has a point, but there is no word in the English language for it. marylandblue Dec 2018 #5
Relationships with others. MineralMan Dec 2018 #6
Those are personal meanings, and good as far as they go marylandblue Dec 2018 #7
Politics, social organizations, careers. MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
Yes, the list is endless, that's part of the problem marylandblue Dec 2018 #9
Good points. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
I think people need a grand narrative, that's really what he is talking about marylandblue Dec 2018 #16
Everyone crafts their own narrative. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
Most people buy their narratives off the shelf marylandblue Dec 2018 #24
IF/WHEN The Christ Himself RETURNS in Glory as He supposedly sprinkleeninow Dec 2018 #29
Well, I am an agnostic, so I really don't know. marylandblue Dec 2018 #30
I had awareness of that which you 'hold' or how you identify. sprinkleeninow Dec 2018 #31
I guess I'm not a person... tonedevil Dec 2018 #32
I was clearly talking about people in general, not each and every individual person marylandblue Dec 2018 #33
Er what? Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #34
Didn't make any complaints about atheism just accepted what atheists usually say. marylandblue Dec 2018 #35
Like this: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #11
Yes, I read it. Codswallop. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12
I agree with that part of the article. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #13
See. I was right, then. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14
Well, you are free to think so. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15
Of course I am. MineralMan Dec 2018 #20
This is the weakest part of the article marylandblue Dec 2018 #17
We disagree. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19
No shit. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #27
But wait. Guy agrees with that paragraph. MineralMan Dec 2018 #21
Yes, it's hard for some people to think of life without religion marylandblue Dec 2018 #22
And some can't imagine life with religion. MineralMan Dec 2018 #23
... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #25
It's actually a quite interesting article. Jim__ Dec 2018 #28
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