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Bleacher Creature

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8. I think the consensus is that he first started taking PEDs in 1999.

Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:50 PM

Jan 2022

Here's a blurb from a Washington Post article looking at his stats before that time period.

If his career had ended in 1998, Bonds would be a .290 hitter with 411 home runs, 1,917 hits, 1,216 RBI, 1,357 walks (289 intentional) and a .966 OPS (164 OPS+). There are four other players eligible for the Hall of Fame with at least 400 home runs and 1,900 hits combined with a .290 career average and 160 career OPS+, all are enshrined in Cooperstown — Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Jimmie Foxx and Ted Williams.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/01/17/if-barry-bonds-ended-his-career-before-steroid-use-hed-be-a-clear-hall-of-famer/

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Column: If Barry Bonds isn't a Hall of Famer by the end of the day, it's a failure by the HOF [View all] Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 OP

Yeah even though I'm from the Bay, I dunno that I'd go this far ... Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #1

He certainly was Casady1 Jan 2022 #7

I think the consensus is that he first started taking PEDs in 1999. Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 #8

Fair enough, I guess what I'm questioning is whether the 'reported' use is really when it started Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #9

But he didn't, and his eligibility should be judged on his *whole* career Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #13

Nope madville Jan 2022 #2

Amen! overleft Jan 2022 #3

What are your feelings Casady1 Jan 2022 #6

Be consistent madville Jan 2022 #11

do you know Casady1 Jan 2022 #12

I didn't mention them specifically, you tell me madville Jan 2022 #16

So you basically know nothing Casady1 Jan 2022 #19

Keep your blinders on if you wish madville Jan 2022 #20

I have been following baseball Casady1 Jan 2022 #21

I agree SCantiGOP Jan 2022 #15

No, no he doesn't. n/t ms liberty Jan 2022 #4

* unweird Jan 2022 #5

No fucking way. Bonds, Canseco and McGwire nearly destroyed the sport Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #10

How do you feel Casady1 Jan 2022 #14

That's what I don't get either. Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 #18

x1000! Capt. America Feb 2022 #22

Sometimes cheaters don't win. Xoan Jan 2022 #17