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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: BAM. This is spot on [View all]

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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25. More info
Mon May 30, 2022, 10:50 AM
May 2022

From the FOPA of 1986:

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

My understanding is that this is a general provision that has specific exceptions like, AFAIK, some states register the guns that residents with concealed carry permits plan to actually carry.

Aside from all this a majority of owners and pro-RKBA folks are adamantly opposed to general registration.

As I said before probably 150 million of the guns in the US today are semi-auto. I would ballpark fair market values between $40-50 billion. That amount of money would pale in comparison to the budget involved in the collection and processing of guns recovered and the subsequent cost of prosecuting the non-compliant folks. I'd guess the cost would approach $1 trillion.


Semi-auto rifles were first invented in 1779. The idea that the Founders, some of the most intelligent, experienced and well informed people of the day, never considered semi-auto rifles when writing the 2A, is impossible to believe.

For 230+ years the 2A has stood unchanged and is accepted as a protection against government denying an individual right to keep and bear arms. State and federal courts and legislatures have deemed lawful several types of semi-auto rifles and handguns.

An amendment requires a proposal advanced by either 33 states or 357 Congresspersons and the acceptance of 401 Congresspersons or 38 states. IMO the attempt isn't worth the fallout.

I don't think there will ever be a case where civilians will work to overthrow throw the federal government. I don't see a scenario such as the events of 4 May 1970 will ever be repeated on a national or even regional scale. I believe these things by virtue of the innate character of the typical servicemen and women I know. Unlike other times in history and other areas of the world, these folks do not view themselves as separate from other citizens and of some higher class. IMO the 2A is one of the things that helps maintain that equality.

I prefer to consider measures that could be sufficiently supported as to be passed into law. Experience from the campaign against drunk driving points to the education and cooperation of the drinking public. It didn't matter if those drinking where alcoholics or just friends enjoying a night out. Programs like designated drivers and taking a taxi or Uber when drinking have helped more than all of the laws and fines of the past.

Peace to you and yours

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BAM. This is spot on [View all] ShepKat May 2022 OP
If you're advocating for... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #1
Sounds to me like he's advocating for... Martin Eden May 2022 #4
JFK once said... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #11
Of course citizens shouldn't be restricted from access to their own firearms Martin Eden May 2022 #20
Just some thoughts discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #21
To answer your questions Martin Eden May 2022 #22
Thanks for the answers. So often folks in discussions on this topic can't be civil... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #23
Registration is necessary against straw purchases and that pipeline I cited Martin Eden May 2022 #24
More info discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #25
Amending 2A would supercede FOPA Martin Eden May 2022 #26
re: "Amending 2A" discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #27
no. ShepKat May 2022 #5
There are those among us who prefer truth perversion to just plain truth. jaxexpat May 2022 #8
You say tomato... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #12
We need to stop calling it "gun control" Cheezoholic May 2022 #6
re: We need to stop calling it "gun control" discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #16
Except that the gun-control movement boosts gun sales krispos42 May 2022 #28
Wellll, there's certainly not much hope for somebody . . . AndyS May 2022 #7
Have a nice day. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #13
Spot on Cheezoholic May 2022 #2
thanks for posting markie May 2022 #3
In Navy Boot Camp we were issued inoperable old rifles. rickford66 May 2022 #9
I've got a couple of questions DashOneBravo May 2022 #10
Generally, the unit qualifies together, but individuals MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #17
That's pretty cool. DashOneBravo May 2022 #18
IMO, an irrefutable argument. BobTheSubgenius May 2022 #14
More guns make us safer??? The Jungle 1 May 2022 #15
Not a fan of the nra. Don't like the leadership. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #19
ShepKat, this marine is disingenuous SYFROYH Jun 2022 #29
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