Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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12. The antigun (like all true believers, of any sort), have their 'articles of faith'- or...

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:30 PM

Jan 2021

...what the less charitable would term 'pious frauds'.

"the National Guard is the only militia" is an old one.

Another is: "The Second Amendment was passed to ensure slave-catchers could be armed"

The newest one I've spotted in the wild is:

"Eugene Stoner was opposed to civilian ownership of AR-type rifles"

Two problems with that one:

1) Civilian versions of the AR were sold for the last 34 years of his life,
and no one as yet has produced any empirical evidence of any such obections by him.

2) He co-founded Knight's Armament Company in 1982, known for their AR based rifles and carbines.
They've sold civilian versions of their guns from the beginning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight%27s_Armament_Company

...KAC is owned by C. Reed Knight and is based in Titusville, Florida. Knight's Manufacturing Company (KMC) is the division of KAC responsible for products aimed at the civilian market...

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The only "well regulated militia" [View all] safeinOhio Jan 2021 OP

Disagree; we the people, all of us, need to be ready to defend our country. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2021 #1

Then they all need safeinOhio Jan 2021 #2

"Well regulated" as intended, means that every citizen is trained, equipped, and prepared LongtimeAZDem Jan 2021 #3

When written it didn't mean women. safeinOhio Jan 2021 #4

Quibble all you want. If January 6 didn't wake you up, I won't argue with you. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2021 #5

Because the NG is regulated, they can be cleaned up. safeinOhio Jan 2021 #7

Unless, of course, that the states pass something yagotme Feb 2021 #17

Of course. needledriver Jan 2021 #6

10 United States Code section 246... krispos42 Jan 2021 #8

Sounds like the old draft. safeinOhio Jan 2021 #9

Unorganized Militia? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha jimmy the one Aug 2021 #22

Nice try krispos42 Aug 2021 #24

There's this saying about repeating a lie. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2021 #25

12 justices for militia, 5 for individual jimmy the one Aug 2021 #26

Huh, well since there have been no SCOTUS decisions on this issue, I guess you're... wait a minute! krispos42 Aug 2021 #27

gun control side won last 7 of 8 presidential elections jimmy the one Aug 2021 #30

That's YOUR interpretation of original intent... krispos42 Aug 2021 #31

gun control makes marginal improvements jimmy the one Aug 2021 #32

At the expence of substantial setbacks elswhere. krispos42 Aug 2021 #33

Gun ownership charts, gss, gallup jimmy the one Aug 2021 #34

It's probably the deterioration of telephone polling krispos42 Aug 2021 #35

cruikshank; maybe 21 militia, 5 individual jimmy the one Aug 2021 #28

There's not much point in arguing about it ... HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2021 #10

So? Gun ownership is not linked to militia service hack89 Jan 2021 #11

The antigun (like all true believers, of any sort), have their 'articles of faith'- or... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2021 #12

So now that trump's gone, that "well regulated militia" thing comes back into play. Paladin Jan 2021 #13

"You gun rights people sure were quiet..." About what? What do *you* think ought to have been said? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2021 #14

You've dodged the question before: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2021 #15

First, it's against DU rules to advocate for violence against the government krispos42 Feb 2021 #18

I'm proud to call my self a liberal...AND a gun owner. Rick Rolle Feb 2021 #19

I'm a liberal gun owner, myself. Paladin Feb 2021 #20

maybe 90 million gun owners jimmy the one Aug 2021 #23

Fortunately gun ownership is an individual right independent of militia service. Nt hack89 Feb 2021 #16

Both I, and the SCOTUS, agree with you. Rick Rolle Feb 2021 #21

I'll admit that the National Guard is more "well-regulated" than the unorganized militia... SYFROYH Aug 2021 #29