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48. If Americans are sick and tired of seeing their children gunned down at school...
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 12:36 AM
Mar 2018

which I feel they are, what can be done right now to prevent such tragedies?

Banning evil looking semi-automatic rifles such as the AR-15 will not eliminate school schoolings. A shooter at Virginia Tech back in 2007 managed to kill 32 people and wound 17 others with two semiautomatic pistols. Even banning all semiautomatc firearms wouldn’t prevent a school shooting by some individual armed with a book bag full of revolvers.

Even if legislation passes to ban certain or all firearms it will not occur in the immediate future. Therefore it is quite possible we will see many more school shooting in the meantime.

So what can we do? Here’s some ideas.

1) Improve the physical security at schools. There are many ways to accomplish this such as limiting access to a few entrances which can be monitored . A more expensive idea is to install metal detectors at such entrances. Require ID badges to open the doors to at these entrances. Improve the doors to classrooms and install bullet proof glass in such doors so a shooter can’t stand outside and fire into the room.

2) Train students and teachers how to react in a school shooting. If a shooter enters the room teach the students throw everything available at him including books, book bags and even desks.It could distract him and has a better chance of saving lives than hiding under desks.

3) Have adequate, well trained, armed security at every school. Every gun free zone that houses large numbers of people should have such security. Many buildings in large cities often have far better security personnel present than most schools. The high school in Florida where the recent tragedy occurred had only one School Resource Officer for 3000 students in several buildings. I don’t feel that was adequate.

4) Imporve our mental healthcare system in this nation so that people with severe mental issues that makes them a danger to others can find treatment.

5) Make sure the authorities take action when some individual is busy waving enormous red flags indicating he is a danger. If that would have happened with the shooter in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida this recent tragedy might have been prevented. All levels of government including the FBI totally dropped the ball by ignoring the numerous warnings about this shooter.

6) Make sure security personnel at a high school know their job is to confront the shooter and that the police who arrive on the scene make entry rather than setting up a perimeter outside while the shooter is in the process of killing innocent people inside the building.

7) After the police enter and clear an area of the building allow EMTs to enter and treat the injured. Minutes count and can save lives.

8) The media should limit naming the shooter as much as possible. Giving him a week of 24/7 publicity can also inspire copycat shooters looking for similar attention. (Notice I avoid naming the recent high school shooter.)

9) Insure our NICS background check system for the legal purchase of firearms is up to date and flags those who have serious mental issues endangering others.

Who knows? Perhaps in several years or a decade or two certain or all firearms may be banned. Perhaps not. However I feel we should take action now to try to deter school shootings as much as possible and in my opinion there is a lot we can do.

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Police carried .38s regularly into the 1980s exboyfil Feb 2018 #1
A shopkeeper (or anyone) has the right to stop an assault. appal_jack Feb 2018 #4
All it takes is one well-aimed bullet PJMcK Feb 2018 #2
Another thought PJMcK Feb 2018 #3
And yet, your first response was snark. appal_jack Feb 2018 #6
Two points PJMcK Feb 2018 #7
Thanks. appal_jack Feb 2018 #19
Cheers! (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2018 #23
What is the caliber of the revolver? I don't see that mentioned in the article. TexasProgresive Feb 2018 #5
The mother did as well as the average NYC police officer. appal_jack Feb 2018 #8
Having the required (for NYCPD use) 12# trigger does not help. n/t oneshooter Feb 2018 #10
What is a 12# trigger? packman Feb 2018 #12
Probably refers to a 12-pound trigger pull. Paladin Feb 2018 #13
I believe it is a measure of the amount of force needed marked50 Feb 2018 #16
Close. Straw Man Feb 2018 #25
Similar to a DA revolver though, yes? appal_jack Feb 2018 #22
Also, a .380 is a 9mm with less powder behind it. appal_jack Feb 2018 #11
So what is the caliber of the revolver? Nothing I've seen on a search gives that info. TexasProgresive Feb 2018 #18
I consulted several other articles, and did not see calibers mentioned. appal_jack Feb 2018 #20
So this really is a weak argument pro v con TexasProgresive Feb 2018 #21
On The Walking Dead.. AZ8theist Feb 2018 #9
Yeah, but only those evil, guided, AR-15 assault bullets. nt appal_jack Feb 2018 #17
They needed SUPERTRUMP to rush in packman Feb 2018 #14
He'd-a-done-it, even without any gun! ;-) nt appal_jack Feb 2018 #15
Well, A Revolver IS a Semi-Auto, Assuming It Is Double Action! DoctorJoJo Feb 2018 #24
Close, but not quite. appal_jack Feb 2018 #26
DAO. Straw Man Mar 2018 #31
There Are Some Amazing Exhibitions of Quick Firing/Reloading a Revolver on Target DoctorJoJo Mar 2018 #46
And if the mother's gun had more bullets Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #27
The perp would never have reached her. appal_jack Feb 2018 #30
One incident proves everything. HopeAgain Feb 2018 #28
Your zero actual counterpoints sure have convinced me! nt appal_jack Mar 2018 #32
There are thousands of videos on YouTube showing people not getting robbed at gunpoint. Kaleva Mar 2018 #49
If death of the perp is the desired result tazkcmo Feb 2018 #29
Have you watched the video or read the article? appal_jack Mar 2018 #34
Yes, both. tazkcmo Mar 2018 #35
Hopefully, we can find some common ground. appal_jack Mar 2018 #36
No. No deal. tazkcmo Mar 2018 #37
We will agree to disagree, then. appal_jack Mar 2018 #38
I'll bet your assault weapon tazkcmo Mar 2018 #40
If Americans are sick and tired of seeing their children gunned down at school... spin Mar 2018 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Mar 2018 #33
Apparently the exact kind of ammunition matters samir.g Mar 2018 #39
Bad guy should not have had the shotgun samir.g Mar 2018 #41
We could save 15-50K lives a year by banning heroin gejohnston Mar 2018 #42
Thank you for reiterating NRA talking points for me samir.g Mar 2018 #43
not a valid argument, gejohnston Mar 2018 #44
a label is not an argument discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #45
So you ban firearms and you think criminals who aren't allowed to own firearms.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #47
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