Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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17. IOW,

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:16 PM

Mar 2018

you don't give a shit about the Constitution, just what you want and the ends justify the means. "Well regulated" meant "well functioning".
The real world is far more complex than ideologies and culture wars.
What kind of data should be in these background checks? We all know about the two where USAF and Broward County didn't do their jobs. Those are obvious. Most of the people denied sales are due to old non-violent convictions (like pot possession 30 years ago), medical marijuana card holders etc. Not dangers to society.
I argue those people should have all of their rights returned, guns and voting.

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Don't gun shows circumvent having to use a straw purchase if you're not [View all] no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 OP

not really, gejohnston Mar 2018 #1

Someone who has an FFL (Federal Firearms License) AzureCrest Mar 2018 #2

Well then get them access to the system. Private sales were like 30% of gun show purchases and its bettyellen Mar 2018 #3

States that dont regulate who are responsible for the flow of guns into states that do regulate. gejohnston Mar 2018 #4

The NRA has lobbied to block research- and block regulations. Do the math. bettyellen Mar 2018 #6

no they didn't gejohnston Mar 2018 #7

They only support backround checks with the loophole. And research is not advocacy for fucks sake bettyellen Mar 2018 #12

The "loophole" gejohnston Mar 2018 #15

I dont give a shit about excuses for allowing the loophole- well regulated does not mean bettyellen Mar 2018 #16

IOW, gejohnston Mar 2018 #17

You think loopholes are well functioning? Bullshit. bettyellen Mar 2018 #18

And yet again, the default intellectual level of gun control advocacy is confirmed... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #19

He argued that the loopholes existing are equivelent to well functioning or well regulated ... bettyellen Mar 2018 #20

re: loopholes discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #21

youre actually arguing everyone deserves to have a weapon. Violent abusive people. Nope. bettyellen Mar 2018 #22

It would be polite to take *your* straw argument out of *his* mouth friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #23

The people are in favor of sensible gun regulation- the loopholes prevent it from functioning. bettyellen Mar 2018 #24

Putting your straw into *my* mouth is also impolite. I'll thank you to remove it friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #25

I was replying to the claim that laws full of loopholes are functioning. By definition they do not. bettyellen Mar 2018 #26

"But you knew that." I 'knew' nothing of the sort, and you've proposed no clear means... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #27

Close the loopholes, all transfers require a check. Period. Thats regulation. bettyellen Mar 2018 #28

I will do my best to explain what I understand as the truth discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #29

Gets even worse. Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #5

I call that the Brussels Train Station Loophole gejohnston Mar 2018 #8

Yes. Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #9

"Private sales were like 30% of gun show purchases" link? I doubt that.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #11

It is still against the law. Nitram Mar 2018 #10

It's not until we stop expecting laws to control people that we will make progress discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #30

I'm not defending this law as a fool-proof deterrent to gun violence. I'm just pointing out Nitram Mar 2018 #31

The location of the sale does not change the rules of the sale. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #13

A gun show is basically a temporary mall. krispos42 Mar 2018 #14