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29. A B C
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 11:15 AM
Mar 2018

A. I don't care what your background is. It has no relevance to this discussion.
B. I don't care what your stance is on AR-15s, nor your opinion on what it does or doesn't do for democrats. It too has no relevance to my discussion with Marengo or you.
C. Yes, yes, & yes. to #1, #2, & #3. You can dig your heals in and double down that you didn't present a straw man, but it's okay to accept that you did. It may have been by accident, but it shows character when you accept it.

I said to Marengo. "If you are so certain that I am wrong, what is your source listing a quantifiable count to refute my original estimate?"

You rebutted with the straw man: Further, in #13 you imply that Marengo needs to prove that what 1)you asserted didn't happen. 2) You must realize that proving a negative is impossible.

In 1 you set up the straw man, implying something I didn't say or mean and in 2 you shoot down your straw man. I'll let you figure it out. A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent,

No where in my proposition do I assert that he must prove something didn't happen. I'm more than well aware that you cannot prove a negative. That is why I worded my question the way I did.

Like I said, I'm asking him to provide basis for his rebuttal. I'm happy to admit where I may be wrong in over estimating or using fluffy language or if I was just talking out of my ass. But absent of evidence to the contrary, I'll stick by what I said.

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When 600,000 students and countless millions of others walk out tomorrow at 10:00 AM ffr Mar 2018 #1
no it isn't gejohnston Mar 2018 #3
That flies in the face of everything I'm seeing and hearing on the news. ffr Mar 2018 #4
they are a loud minority gejohnston Mar 2018 #6
Did countless millions and 600,000 students walk out yesterday as you predicted? If not, exactly... Marengo Mar 2018 #9
I was wrong. It wasn't 600,000 students, it was a 1,000,000 give or take. ffr Mar 2018 #11
i dont see any reference to countless millions in that article, neither is there a source... Marengo Mar 2018 #12
Unusually negative conclusion for something that would be difficult to quantify ffr Mar 2018 #13
Are you claiming youre not wrong on predicting countless millions would walk out? Marengo Mar 2018 #14
Nice Red Herring fallacy, but please address my previous proposition Post #9 ffr Mar 2018 #15
Ummm, you made the claim countless millions would walk out. Where is the evidence this happened? Marengo Mar 2018 #17
Another Red Herring diversion. Address my proposition in #9. ffr Mar 2018 #18
Ah, so no evidence then. Got it. Marengo Mar 2018 #19
I can't move on to address your next question until you've rebutted my 1st. ffr Mar 2018 #21
Not to intrude here but #9 is not your post discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #23
I see it's now post #11, the one that he replied to. But I rebut your straw man conclusion. ffr Mar 2018 #24
Thanks for the belated welcome and welcome to you too discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #25
A B C ffr Mar 2018 #29
A B C 1 2 3... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #32
Youre right, you cant move on as you have nothing to back the prediction countless millions Marengo Mar 2018 #28
Do you think it's ridiculous of me to ask that you provide basis for your rebuttal? ffr Mar 2018 #30
LOL! Just as I expected. Im still waiting for a source proving your prediction that countless... Marengo Mar 2018 #33
Whoops. See my post below. It didn't reply to this post directly. n/t ffr Mar 2018 #31
p.s. Welcome to D.U. ffr Mar 2018 #16
In limbo-- where it's been for years... TreasonousBastard Mar 2018 #2
In the larger context, gejohnston Mar 2018 #5
I think you've revealed more about yourself than you intended, on this thread. Paladin Mar 2018 #7
Two things, gejohnston Mar 2018 #8
What has been revealed? Marengo Mar 2018 #10
I think you've revealed more about yourself than you intended, with that post friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #20
In the shitter? Alea Mar 2018 #22
what is said and done during a campaign usually doesn't lead to same policies once in office beachbum bob Mar 2018 #26
Lamb favored stricter background checks Freddie Mar 2018 #27
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