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24. I see it's now post #11, the one that he replied to. But I rebut your straw man conclusion.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 09:06 PM
Mar 2018

I cannot control D.U. post numbers if they change. It was post #9 previously.

I disputed my own post #1 finding (asserted that 600,000 students would walk out) in post #11, where I clearly say I was wrong. I give references to sources that, in fact, it was closer to a million. What do you want from me? I made an estimate. The estimate as proved inaccurate. I corrected myself by posting a more accurate number of one million, which I didn't come up with, the sources did.

By all accounts, if I remember correctly, from what I'd seen from coverage there were churches, parents, teachers, administrators, mayors, other civil servants, and average workers across the country (myself and other co-workers included) that had planned to walkout or otherwise support the student walkout in the lead-up to the March 14th event. So clearly students weren't the only ones walking out on the 14th AND the number of participants to the walkout would be greater than 1 million. So unless you have something that states otherwise, I think, yeah, there were probably several million people across the nation and the world that walked out -- post #1.

Let me put it to you this way. I don't think there's a line drawn in the sand that when it comes to quantifying the exact number of worldwide participants on anything, an accurate count will be determined, do you? I certainly wouldn't be challenging such assertions without evidence to the contrary. If I did, then it would be logical to conclude that I was simply trying to pick a fight and had no evidence of my own to refute the original assertion. Therefore, I think it's safe to say the estimates match what we saw in media coverage of the March 14th walkout.

Further, in #13 you imply that Marengo needs to prove that what you asserted didn't happen. You must realize that proving a negative is impossible.

Furthermore, your straw man conclusion (setting up and shooting down something I didn't say) incorrectly represents my post #13 proposition: "If you are so certain that I am wrong, what is your source listing a quantifiable count to refute my original estimate?" That clearly states I am looking for evidence from Marengo or someone knowledgeable like yourself, who can show numbers from sources that refute my estimates: media sources, news, etc.

So my rebutting conclusion will be this. I invite you to join Marengo and provide sources listing a quantifiable count to refute my original estimate. Absent of that, I'll stick with my assertions.

Welcome to D.U.

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When 600,000 students and countless millions of others walk out tomorrow at 10:00 AM ffr Mar 2018 #1
no it isn't gejohnston Mar 2018 #3
That flies in the face of everything I'm seeing and hearing on the news. ffr Mar 2018 #4
they are a loud minority gejohnston Mar 2018 #6
Did countless millions and 600,000 students walk out yesterday as you predicted? If not, exactly... Marengo Mar 2018 #9
I was wrong. It wasn't 600,000 students, it was a 1,000,000 give or take. ffr Mar 2018 #11
i dont see any reference to countless millions in that article, neither is there a source... Marengo Mar 2018 #12
Unusually negative conclusion for something that would be difficult to quantify ffr Mar 2018 #13
Are you claiming youre not wrong on predicting countless millions would walk out? Marengo Mar 2018 #14
Nice Red Herring fallacy, but please address my previous proposition Post #9 ffr Mar 2018 #15
Ummm, you made the claim countless millions would walk out. Where is the evidence this happened? Marengo Mar 2018 #17
Another Red Herring diversion. Address my proposition in #9. ffr Mar 2018 #18
Ah, so no evidence then. Got it. Marengo Mar 2018 #19
I can't move on to address your next question until you've rebutted my 1st. ffr Mar 2018 #21
Not to intrude here but #9 is not your post discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #23
I see it's now post #11, the one that he replied to. But I rebut your straw man conclusion. ffr Mar 2018 #24
Thanks for the belated welcome and welcome to you too discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #25
A B C ffr Mar 2018 #29
A B C 1 2 3... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #32
Youre right, you cant move on as you have nothing to back the prediction countless millions Marengo Mar 2018 #28
Do you think it's ridiculous of me to ask that you provide basis for your rebuttal? ffr Mar 2018 #30
LOL! Just as I expected. Im still waiting for a source proving your prediction that countless... Marengo Mar 2018 #33
Whoops. See my post below. It didn't reply to this post directly. n/t ffr Mar 2018 #31
p.s. Welcome to D.U. ffr Mar 2018 #16
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