Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,602 posts)
14. Einstein was pretty big on thought experiments
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jul 2017

He wasn't quite as creative as you but he had his moments.

I considered the idea of having law enforcement able to communicate with and control a specific registered vehicle. That idea is full of hacker based rabbit holes.

Next I figured that an occupant should be responsible for disabling autonomous operation and complying. However, if the car is really autonomous the occupant may not be a qualified operator.

Who gets the ticket in this particular rabbit hole of thought is anyone's guess since an actual root cause failure may have derived from a multitude of directions or causes or possibly a cascade of effects.


OT: If you really want something to worry about, several years ago I worked for a subcontractor to a DoD contractor on the ERMP program for the UAV then called Warrior (an update of the predator). The update included improved avionics and flight control to allow the pilots to be replaced with operators and missions specialists. The aircraft would fly itself; the operators would control and assign mission objectives, targets, loiter times, altitudes and locations and collect intelligence. Not only would the operators not fly it, they wouldn't necessarily know how to fly it nor would the capability to actually control flight remotely exist at all.

I believe about half of the planned 150 some vehicles have been delivered at this point. I have no idea if the operator modifications have been included. I wonder how long it will be until surplus UAVs are sold to local police departments.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Smart guns - survey... sort of [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 OP
It's an interesting analogy, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #1
I thought governors had drivers? Throck Jul 2017 #5
What do you think money grows on trees? ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #6
As I understand the technology... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #7
I agree wrt guns, they are different than cars, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #9
re: "...perhaps a malfunctioning driverless car could just have a set speed limit that is low..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #11
I think we are getting out of hand here. ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #17
I agree about the thread taking a tangent discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #20
I do accept automated control over cars, sure. ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #22
re: "...no need to allow the driver to exceed the speed limit." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #24
I agree in part ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #25
Side benefits (to autonomous cars) would be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #26
I understand the reasoning but bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #2
I don't know, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #3
I prefer to be driving away from the mayhem bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #10
But you are less safe in front of the drunk driver... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #18
what part of driving AWAY from a dangerous bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #27
And what part of ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #28
I'll repeat myself bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #29
I understand you want him behind you, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #33
Pardon my intrusion here discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #30
Ok, but ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #34
I imagine most people... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #36
The discussion is not about sacrificing freedom, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #37
Speed limits are an evolving aspect of the motor vehicle code discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #39
I am unfamiliar with the Ultima GT-R, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #40
Yes it has seat belts along with a 240 MPH max speed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #41
A separate post for the gun thing ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #35
See my embedded replies below discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #38
I agree discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #8
I think there are too many variables presented while driving. justhanginon Jul 2017 #4
Just a question discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #12
That is a damn good question. I was mulling over some possible justhanginon Jul 2017 #13
Einstein was pretty big on thought experiments discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #14
It seems to me that when you got to full on autonomy you really lose justhanginon Jul 2017 #15
re: "I've been retired for almost twenty years..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #16
The human "ability" is over-rated... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #19
Speed loses much of its value when their is no human moral justhanginon Jul 2017 #21
I don't see it that way at all... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #23
I like to move with the speed of the traffic. ... spin Jul 2017 #31
Sounds like a safe plan discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #32
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Smart guns - survey... so...»Reply #14