Gun Control & RKBA

Snackshack

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52. I do not confuse...

Fri Apr 7, 2017, 10:19 AM

Apr 2017

Right's or Privilege... you assume much.

1st- Safety training for the same reason you have to take and pass a test to drive (Yes, driving is a privileged but as I stated previously the zero fail nature of a firearm should require the same. Many seem not to understand this and end up leaving the firearm in the couch for the 3 yr old to find.) The safety training is to show that one is capable / competent and fully understands the responsibility involved with owning a firearm.

2nd- BGC upon purchase. A yearly license/tag renewal would ensure your right to own has not changed, not everyone buys a firearm every year.

3rd- If that is what Canada does... good for them. A person should have to go to a licensed dealer to get inventory. It should not be deliverable to the front door. A chain of custody should exist.

4th- Your point about Sandy Hook.... short an outright ban on all firearms (which I do not favor, I enjoy my pistols and shotgun) tragedies are still going to happen. We have allowed firearms to proliferate unabated for decades but that is not a reason, which i see used often to do nothing...that and the other super silly meme of "only criminals would have firearms" if we made laws address the firearm violence...

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In November my home state of PA went Red [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 OP

Your concern is noted. n/t Scoopster Apr 2017 #1

Your guns aren't that powerful. Warpy Apr 2017 #2

re: "They won't turn you into a mighty army against tyranny" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #16

That is ALL that mattered in Western PA ebbie15644 Apr 2017 #3

The map discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #17

My husband owns a lot of guns radical noodle Apr 2017 #4

how does he define "common sense"? gejohnston Apr 2017 #12

We've talked about a lot of possibilities.. radical noodle Apr 2017 #14

You need to be a bit more specific discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #18

I am not into writing law that is specific and also will be constitutional radical noodle Apr 2017 #25

Just a few things gejohnston Apr 2017 #31

Sounds like we agree on some things radical noodle Apr 2017 #32

A case in point. Straw Man Apr 2017 #40

We have had gun control since the founding gejohnston Apr 2017 #24

How would you feel about getting a gun license radical noodle Apr 2017 #30

You mean what a FOID is in Illinois? gejohnston Apr 2017 #34

I'm not familiar with Illinois gun laws radical noodle Apr 2017 #37

"Even one is too many" wincest Apr 2017 #60

They might, but they will not. oneshooter Apr 2017 #61

government and gun safety, there's oxymoron discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #62

Remember, only the Police and other Law Enforcement are trained well enough to carry firearms. n/t oneshooter Apr 2017 #63

do you mean folks like agent horiuchi? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #65

"Remember, only the Police and other Law Enforcement are trained well enough to carry firearms." wincest Apr 2017 #66

when seconds count.... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #67

What you are describing is my Florida Concealed Weaons Permit. ... spin Apr 2017 #43

"He would even go for treating the military style rifles the way machine guns are regulated." wincest Apr 2017 #64

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #56

I rode the bus to knock on doors for Hillary HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #5

Just a coincidence Lithos Apr 2017 #6

"GOTV effort" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #19

She lost PA not from the Rural Dems Lithos Apr 2017 #23

When I knocked on over 100 doors a day, there were zero admitted Trump voters HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #29

We were sent to only Democratic households to try to GOTV radical noodle Apr 2017 #33

Yes, Dem area outside Philly HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #35

Exactly krispos42 May 2017 #109

PBS Doc. Snackshack Apr 2017 #7

++ I saw that doc last night lunasun Apr 2017 #10

Do you have any suggestions? discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #20

Nothing that has not already Snackshack Apr 2017 #50

Revocation of the right of ownership if convicted of a crime or declared mentally compromised gejohnston Apr 2017 #51

I do not confuse... Snackshack Apr 2017 #52

"It should not be deliverable to the front door." Why not? It seems to work well in Canada. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2017 #53

just a few things gejohnston Apr 2017 #54

Let's look at your 1st #'d paragrph: yagotme Apr 2017 #55

We just moved to Pa. from Florida HockeyMom Apr 2017 #8

I believe Monroe voted HRC discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #21

Now I know who to blame gejohnston Apr 2017 #36

I voted in my first presidential election in 1972 at the ripe dae Apr 2017 #9

Yep same bs line for a long time lunasun Apr 2017 #11

I think changing that perception would serve us well n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #22

I thought Obama already took all thier guns away during his regime lunasun Apr 2017 #13

It goes back at least to the Kennedy's but yeah Obama scared them dae Apr 2017 #15

He did. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #27

Not that there wasn't talk of more legislation and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #75

A massive amount of assumption here. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #26

The converse requires the same discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #46

I am a poll worker in one of those rural counties. Guns had nothing to do with what happened. appleannie1943 Apr 2017 #28

Philly and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between Freddie Apr 2017 #38

I am north of the Burgh. appleannie1943 Apr 2017 #41

re: "Guns had nothing to do with what happened." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #47

The main issue in my county was jobs and health. Period. appleannie1943 Apr 2017 #48

2 issues cost votes Alea Apr 2017 #39

All the thugs in my area were more concerned with health care. They eat, sleep and drink FOX. appleannie1943 Apr 2017 #42

I agree and Alea Apr 2017 #45

Sometimes I think there are those who want to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #49

It's lost the whole South...it's time we faced the music, people like keeping ileus Apr 2017 #44

Freedom is the natural state of people. It's a biological imperative discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #73

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that dishonesty on the gun violence pablo_marmol Apr 2017 #57

The fight is not against pro-regulation; it's against denial. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #74

I have to say Alea Apr 2017 #58

Not at all discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #59

Let me interrupt this smug little Democrat-slagging thread for a moment.... Paladin Apr 2017 #68

smug little Democrat-slagging thread? Alea Apr 2017 #69

Feel free; stop back anytime; everyone's welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #70

Happy interrupting. Straw Man Apr 2017 #71

Democrats that help put Republicans in office *should* be slagged. Repeatedly, and with great vigor friendly_iconoclast Apr 2017 #72

I know --I listen to many in WI -gun talk and fear of taking guns away DOES count as a riversedge Apr 2017 #76

It is one of those issues that exist as divides between urban and rural discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #78

The writting is on the wall randr Apr 2017 #77

Dissent is certainly welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #81

I also own guns and I abhor the NRA randr Apr 2017 #91

We can debate many statistics... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #96

There is no debate randr Apr 2017 #97

Well I do respect your opinion discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #99

Part of your statement, yagotme Apr 2017 #105

Damn polls always messin with facts randr Apr 2017 #106

Yep, sometimes they do. nt yagotme Apr 2017 #107

Do you then sarisataka Apr 2017 #108

Fears over gun control is a major reason Al Gore lost Tennessee, cheapdate Apr 2017 #79

I think you are right, my dem daughter and her dem AJT Apr 2017 #80

I know there is a lot for city folk and country folk to learn from each other. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #82

We had 8 years of a President who gun hobbyists were SURE was going to take all Squinch Apr 2017 #83

I'm only saying... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #84

He spent 8 years hoping a new AWB would pass Congress. krispos42 May 2017 #110

Some folks take published words seriously discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #111

Correlation is not causation. Eko Apr 2017 #85

"...stricter gun laws." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #86

Same poll. Eko Apr 2017 #87

Well a number of states have an AWB discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #88

And,,,,,,,,, Eko Apr 2017 #89

I didn't say a third stayed home b/c of they disagreed on guns discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #92

What? Eko Apr 2017 #94

I'm saying there are a number of Democrats in rural PA discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #101

I live in rural PA. Eko Apr 2017 #102

I work in rural PA, Somerset County discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #103

I dont hate a style of gun. Eko Apr 2017 #90

FYI, I don't own an AR discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #93

I do too. Eko Apr 2017 #95

Respect and you're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #98

Have a good dinner. Eko Apr 2017 #100

It was great, thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #104