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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 01:27 PM Jul 2016

The loophole in the Mass. assault weapons ban [View all]

The following is a press release from the Attorney General of Massachusetts --

The loophole in the Mass. assault weapons ban

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The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans “copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a “copy” or “duplicate” weapon is. They market “state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.

That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers.

The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a “copy” or “duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts.

We recognize that most residents who purchased these guns in the past believed they were doing so legally, so this directive will not apply to possession of guns purchased before Wednesday. In the dozen years since the federal assault weapons ban lapsed, only seven states have instituted their own assault weapons ban. Many of those bans have been challenged (unsuccessfully) by the gun industry, and we anticipate our directive may be too. But our job is to enforce state laws and to keep people safe. This directive does both.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/20/the-loophole-mass-assault-weapons-ban/eEvOBklTriWcGznmXqSpYM/story.html


Seems overly broad and will end up including weapons well outside the scope of the law. Moreover, it was decided by the AG's office, not the legislature. As such it seems ripe for judicial challenge.
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Another Justice Stewart type case... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #1
"Hurry up ... and screw up" DonP Jul 2016 #2
Massachusetts is losing the battle of idiotic laws to California. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #22
Their laws might be idiotic and have holes in them, but their AG is great for trying to fix them! scscholar Jul 2016 #26
Umm, nothing is being destroyed DonP Jul 2016 #27
That's why politicians have jobs shadowrider Jul 2016 #30
Indeed. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #33
The MA AG isn't fixing a damn thing. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #41
Well remember defining what you are regulating sarisataka Jul 2016 #3
"vague and overly broad" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #4
So... krispos42 Jul 2016 #5
"Somebody want to tell the GCRA crowd?" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #6
That quote indicates it is ALL about culture war. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #7
er, what you just said is the exact opposite of what the AG said. Try to keep up. Schema Thing Jul 2016 #8
Um that is exactly sarisataka Jul 2016 #12
Actually, it is what she said. Straw Man Jul 2016 #36
Yes I saw that Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #17
Who is sending this directive? Hangingon Jul 2016 #9
The piece was written by the AG and published through the Globe (and elsewhere, I presume). Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #11
Thx! I should have read closer. Hangingon Jul 2016 #16
If this is true... beevul Jul 2016 #10
Yup, the 1994 Federal AWB did *not* ban AR and AK variants that passed the features test. benEzra Jul 2016 #28
Well said, Ben. beevul Jul 2016 #31
It is a shame that 'knowing what one is doing" isn't a political criteria discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #38
The failure discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #13
I don't know why but discussions of legal concepts always fascinates me. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #14
I'm grateful that that is so and quite sorry so few pro-control folks share your fascination discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #18
Your new rifle has a #4-40 screw holding the cover plate to the grip GreydeeThos Jul 2016 #15
The AG of this state TeddyR Jul 2016 #19
Basically the '94 ban... jmg257 Jul 2016 #20
Thanks TeddyR Jul 2016 #21
I know after reading NY's 1st ban way back when, I was quite surprised so many "copies" jmg257 Jul 2016 #23
I grew up Catholic and got use to the idea that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #24
Why, thank you! Couldn't have been a more benign post...just stats on increasing # of permits. jmg257 Jul 2016 #25
Like many other states, MA reported *zero* rifle homicides in 2014. benEzra Jul 2016 #29
Our AG is an idiot Jackieduda Jul 2016 #32
It will certainly be challenged. Straw Man Jul 2016 #35
Making up new criteria out of thin air... beevul Jul 2016 #43
Here's the actual "Enforcement Notice" jmg257 Jul 2016 #37
Semi auto deer rifles? DashOneBravo Jul 2016 #39
"Internal functioning components". Nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #40
Not that part DashOneBravo Jul 2016 #44
Great timing. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #42
In the interest of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #45
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