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gun stopped a violent crime."
WTF did I say that? EVER?? I quoted and posted VPC numbers of the amount of DGUs - and added them up - PERIOD.
VERY specific what I posted:
"... During this same three-year period, only 163,600 of the self-protective behaviors involved a firearm"
... During this same three-year period, only 99,900 of the self-protective behaviors involved a firearm"
"Roughly 263,000 over 3 years = 88,000 a year."
... During this same three-year period, only 99,900 of the self-protective behaviors involved a firearm"
"Roughly 263,000 over 3 years = 88,000 a year."
No flourishing, no garnishing, no 'misleading', no 'trying' anything but quoting & basic math.
In fact, I actually asked the OP how HE came up his numbers of 35,000 live being saved re: 'successful' DGU uses.
How would you substantiate the number of lives saved just based on the number of DGUs?
"you become the whipping boy for this country's refusal to address social problems in a constructive manner (which, btw, is not "getting tough on crime"
. because we won't address these social problems,"
Huh - "addressing social problems", which if you read the 2 "numbers" threads, is almost exactly what I DID say...
"Until that time comes, and people are REALLY serious about spending the $$ and instituting the programs they know work, the numbers will be what they are."
FWIW:
Here's a link, from one of the studies I got the qoutes & crime numbers, & workable programs & remedies, from, that may help: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/07/14/forget-new-gun-laws-heres-what-could-really-keep-people-from-shooting-each-other/
On edit: the other is from a similar article about Chicago.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/us/armed-with-data-chicago-police-try-to-predict-who-may-shoot-or-be-shot.html?
I think you are confusing your responses.
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