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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
10. Yes
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

There's been absolutely endless studies that show that their system does indeed lower recidivism.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/

Sweden is NOT the rape capital of the world. For someone that demands evidence of aims you certainly have no problem saying things without providing any.

https://m.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/36d3z8//

And no some people are not just "evil". That's not a thing. There's some seriously mentally ill people that do horrible horrible things but they aren't "evil". There are also people that should be incarcerated for the good of society, absolutely... But that's not the case with a huge percentage of people in the US prison system.

And while you may dislike the terms first second and third world the undying principle is still sound: comparing crime rates in Liberia and Monaco is mostly meaningless.

Finally while the Japanese prison system is hard it is also hard to end up in. The Japanese system is muchess likely to put people in prison relative to the US, and indeed Japan has a much lower crime rate.

Japanese prison itself is not nearly as dangerous (or drug infested) as US prison though. It is much closer to a military system.

http://japan.usembassy.gov/mobile//e/acs/tacs-7110g.html

South Korea also has much lower incarceration rates, much less drug use in its prisons and much lower incidence of prisoner on prisoner violence.

You can also see that the only rich country with numerous violent prisons is the US:

http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/top-10-most-violent-prisons-in-the-world/

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Lol EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
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Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #3
We don't have a Scandinavian system discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #6
You're right EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
how do you know the "results" gejohnston May 2016 #9
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the question was about gejohnston May 2016 #16
Like I said EdwardBernays May 2016 #17
perhaps gejohnston May 2016 #18
not true EdwardBernays May 2016 #19
Yes I have checked gejohnston May 2016 #20
"...we don't have the resources to lock up every murder and rapist and violent criminal forever." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #15
More EdwardBernays May 2016 #22
I infer you're against the idea discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #24
the idea... EdwardBernays May 2016 #26
"Crime is a symptom..." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #27
No worries EdwardBernays May 2016 #28
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cool EdwardBernays May 2016 #35
replies discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #51
I'm missing the connection on some of these gejohnston May 2016 #38
ok EdwardBernays May 2016 #40
Latin America is mostly middle income, gejohnston May 2016 #42
Ok 4 EdwardBernays May 2016 #47
still making an argument based on emotion and gejohnston May 2016 #50
part two gejohnston May 2016 #39
ok 2 EdwardBernays May 2016 #41
community policing isn't riding around in cars, gejohnston May 2016 #43
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #48
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As I said before EdwardBernays May 2016 #46
the only people who would obey that, gejohnston May 2016 #49
I haven't heard from you on post #15 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #21
I just replied EdwardBernays May 2016 #23
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #8
Yes EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
I was hoping to see something more scholarly that The Atlantic gejohnston May 2016 #14
And yet... beevul May 2016 #13
Welcome to the Gungeon SecularMotion May 2016 #4
Even for the Gungeon EdwardBernays May 2016 #5
Heh. Most controllers sound more RW than folks here. But enjoy your myth. Eleanors38 May 2016 #29
Depends EdwardBernays May 2016 #31
I do not consider robust support of the Second right-wing. Nor did JFK, an NRA member. Eleanors38 May 2016 #36
wellll EdwardBernays May 2016 #37
It wasn't a pro-gun poster who said this... beevul May 2016 #30
Another gun control poster sarisataka May 2016 #32
And they say gun rights supporters on DU are supposed to be the violent ones... beevul May 2016 #34
I read an article recently TeddyR May 2016 #11
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