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Showing Original Post only (View all)Once again, the VPC hopes you are both easily frightened and poor at math [View all]
The Violence Policy Center has cranked up its evergreen moral panic
"Concealed Carry Killers"- and the gullible and doctrinaire fall for it:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22concealed+carry+killers%22&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com
http://www.democraticunderground.com/126210658
Concealed Carry Tragedies Include Workplace Shooting, Six-Year-Old Unintentionally Killing Father.
Washington, DC Concealed handgun permit holders are responsible for at least 873 deaths not involving self defense since 2007, including 29 mass shootings that killed 139 people, ongoing VPC research shows. Since there is no comprehensive record keeping of fatal incidents involving concealed carry permit holders, this tally most likely represents a small fraction of the actual total.
Washington, DC Concealed handgun permit holders are responsible for at least 873 deaths not involving self defense since 2007, including 29 mass shootings that killed 139 people, ongoing VPC research shows. Since there is no comprehensive record keeping of fatal incidents involving concealed carry permit holders, this tally most likely represents a small fraction of the actual total.
I couldn't be arsed to look for any 2014 or 2015 screeds from them, so let's
look at one from 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023118413
Research Details Hundreds of Examples of Innocent Lives Lost to Concealed Carry Killers"
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 27, 2013
3:18 PM
CONTACT: Violence Policy Center
Avery Palmer, 202-822-8200 x104, apalmer@vpc.org
As Zimmerman Case Begins, VPC Research Details Hundreds of Examples of Innocent Lives Lost to Concealed Carry Killers
WASHINGTON - June 27 - Washington, DC As the trial opens this week over the deadly shooting of Trayvon Martin, research shows that similar fatal incidents are shockingly common. The Violence Policy Center has uncovered hundreds of examples of non-self defense incidents involving private citizens legally allowed to carry concealed handguns. These incidents resulted in 516 deaths including 24 mass shootings and the killing of 14 law enforcement officers.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 27, 2013
3:18 PM
CONTACT: Violence Policy Center
Avery Palmer, 202-822-8200 x104, apalmer@vpc.org
As Zimmerman Case Begins, VPC Research Details Hundreds of Examples of Innocent Lives Lost to Concealed Carry Killers
WASHINGTON - June 27 - Washington, DC As the trial opens this week over the deadly shooting of Trayvon Martin, research shows that similar fatal incidents are shockingly common. The Violence Policy Center has uncovered hundreds of examples of non-self defense incidents involving private citizens legally allowed to carry concealed handguns. These incidents resulted in 516 deaths including 24 mass shootings and the killing of 14 law enforcement officers.
Doing the math, and according to the VPC, concealed carriers are responsible for 357
deaths over the last three years, or 119 a year.
Lets stipulate, for the sake of this argument, that all of those deaths were murders
even if they were not.
Now comes the part where the wheels fall off the panic mongering.
The lowest estimate I can find for the number of concealed handgun permit holders
in the US is 11.1 million- other figures cited were a high of 12.8 million but
I'll stick with the low one. Taking that number, and using the numbers given by the
VPC, we see that 119/11100000 = a murder rate of 0.93 per 100,000 permit
holders, a rate about one-fifth of the US population as a whole
Source for US murder rate:
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-1
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2015/tables/table-3
Worse for the controllers, these numbers mean that those 'concealed carry killers'
kill at a lower rate than does the populations of the UK, France,
Australia (where have I heard that name recenly?), Ireland, Canada...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/03/comparing-england-or-uk-murder-rates.html
and at par with Norway and Sweden
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friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
OP
"examples of non-self defense incidents involving private citizens"
CompanyFirstSergeant
May 2016
#12
Even using VPC's cooked numbers, their header doesn't match reality
friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
#20
Did you have something germane you wanted to add? I'm sure we'd all love to see it.
friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
#29