Gun Control & RKBA

They're doing no such thing. You have the same right of self-defense as they do.

Are you trying to say that this country is awash in guns because the elderly and infirm are arming themselves in self-defense? I hope not, because that would be a ridiculous claim.

They have a right to self defense, but they are putting me in harm's way by giving them guns. Taking away guns does not mean you lose your right to self defense.

Of course I'm not saying the country is awash in guns because of seniors. Don't take me for stupid, what in the actual fuck...

Do I need a link to prove to you that the bulk of gun crimes are committed by people with prior disqualifying convictions, i.e. "felons in possession"? Look at Table 7: 23% of state and 9.5% of federal offenders had no previous sentence. How many does that leave? You do the math.

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf

So what? It's easy to get a gun through a straw purchase, a shady dealer, or stealing one BECAUSE THE COUNTRY IS AWASH in guns. This has zero to do with whether the offenders have a sentence or not. When they still a gun or buy a gun for $1000 it's no big deal. If the act of carrying a gun was a felony criminal offense, guess how much black market guns would cost? It would be about $30,000 (what they are in Australia). So very few common criminals are going to have them, only the hardest of the hard, like Mafia members are going to routinely have them. And guess what, they aren't going to be mugging grandma.

Bingo! When guns are outlawed, only outlaws, etc.

More accurately: when guns are outlawed, only a few extreme outlaws will have them. Instead of any outlaw who wants one will have one (the current situation).