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Gun Control & RKBA

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)

21. One's life is a bit more than being self absorbed.

Reply to Straw Man (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:07 PM

Mar 2016

I'm not forcing you to do anything. You are laboring under the misapprehension that (a) you can create a world without firearms,

Bullshit. I never said that.

and (b) that this will mean the end of violent and fatal assaults.

Bullshit. I never said that. I said that less (not none. LESS) guns = less crime, so even though the elderly and infirm are helpless, they're still more safe. And this doesn't even take into account other things that can be used that are probably better for personal safety, provided someone is mobile, like a panic room.

Neither one is true, but even if you did succeed with the first, the people who would still be the most at risk would be ... need I say it again? The weak, the elderly, and the infirm. You don't seem to care much about their well-being.

When it's their life or mine I sure as fuck do. What's next, force me to donate a kidney who needs one? I'm young, healthy, and strong. I'll be ok.

And again, you imply that the elderly and infirm are safer in a world with a lot of guns. They're not. They're even more likely to be victimized and instead of beaten up and robbed, shot and robbed.

You were not at risk, and seem to be unable to imagine the situation of people who are.

You seem to not give two shits about my life.

So what do you say to the people who live in "war zones" and don't have the means to move themselves "2000 miles" away?

What, are you going to tell me I need to move out of the US?

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*sound of crickets chirping* Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #27

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Guns make me an easy victim. Lack of guns makes me a tough victim. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #9

Translation. Straw Man Mar 2016 #10

I'm not violent. Why should I just be happy that the extreme amount of guns in this MillennialDem Mar 2016 #11

You're not violent? Straw Man Mar 2016 #12

I obviously meant I don't commit criminal battery. Nice STRAWMAN. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #13

Obviously? Straw Man Mar 2016 #14

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No. Where did I ever suggest that? Straw Man Mar 2016 #18

You are absolutely suggesting it. Guns make the world less safe for me. So you are forcing me to MillennialDem Mar 2016 #19

Self-absorbed, much? Straw Man Mar 2016 #20

One's life is a bit more than being self absorbed. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #21

Actually ... Straw Man Mar 2016 #24

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More misconceptions and a nugget of truth. Straw Man Mar 2016 #26

More bullshit MillennialDem Mar 2016 #30

Beg your pardon? Straw Man Mar 2016 #37

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You've stretched credibility past the breaking point now. Straw Man Mar 2016 #43

Are you familiar with sophism? You're repeatedly straw manning my points, not understanding MillennialDem Mar 2016 #44

I'm only taking you at your word. Straw Man Mar 2016 #54

"a safe room could be constructed with a metal secure door and sandbags or old refrigerators." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #45

Why not? It would be bullet proof enough to deter most criminals. Sure it's not going to MillennialDem Mar 2016 #46

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Yeah those are totally comparable. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #48

The belt would take up less space than sand bags and old refrigerators in my old Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #49

Could have done it just fine in my 1 bedroom 600 square foot that 2 of us lived in. Would have just MillennialDem Mar 2016 #50

Did you have a gun? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #51

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I was curious if your assertion that things are "guns, guns, guns" was true. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #53

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You wouldn't try to stop an assault on an elderly or infirm person if you were capable of doing so? Marengo Mar 2016 #22

If I was capable, of course. That's not the same thing as being in a country awash with guns which MillennialDem Mar 2016 #23

If you got your gun-free "utopia?" Damn right they are. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #31

Ok, since you're weakening my strength, what's YOUR responsibility to me? And I will MillennialDem Mar 2016 #32

I would accept several responsibilities (and already do). Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #34

Thanks. Just hope you don't miss and hit me... or escalate the situation further. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #36

I'm just the opposite: 5'3" 112lbs. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #28

Thank you for making me an easy victim. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #29

No, I "know" nothing of the sort. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #33

Yeah, you do and you're lying about it MillennialDem Mar 2016 #35

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