Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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24. I will argue with misinformation wherever I see it.

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:17 PM

Mar 2016

I personally prefer my breakbarrel .22 air rifle because it IS quiet enough to get two or three squirrels from one tree.

And doesn't have as much kinetic energy as a rimfire rifle, and is therefore less likely to result in a swift and painless kill.

However, my state specifically forbids using rim fire guns on anything other than small game like rabbits and squirrels or vermin.

Exactly. Where did I imply anything else?

I routinely shoot with 'clunky earmuffs' without issue and consistently make 3 inch groups at 100 meters with my 7.5 Swiss and iron sights (thank goodness for cataract surgery!).

Good for you. Your 7.5 Swiss doesn't have a very high comb on the buttstock, and therefore muffs won't cause much interference. Others whose rifles have a different stock configuration will have a different experience.

Others here argue that using ear plugs or muffs deadens background noise thus the need for suppressors. Now you say that you need ear plugs AND a suppressor.

Ear plugs muffle less than ear muffs. Whether you "need" both depends on caliber, barrel length, specific ammo, etc. But you knew that ...

A suppressor would drop the noise level of my Swiss to about that of a 30-30. Both still need hearing protection and both will spook anything within a quarter mile.

Again: caliber, barrel length, specific loading.

No, the arguments for suppressors is nothing more than piffle from the gun makers to market another toy for easily persuaded gunners.

And what's the compelling argument against?

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Not just for hitmen: Gun industry wants looser rules on silencers [View all] Eugene Mar 2016 OP

Another issue where common depiction in movies and tv shows gives the public a false impression. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #1

So reality isn't what's shown in movies. lark Mar 2016 #2

The proposed federal law would move them from NFA gejohnston Mar 2016 #7

Alternatively... theatre goon Mar 2016 #12

"Anything that makes it easier..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #13

In otherwords sarisataka Mar 2016 #3

Some European countries REQUIRE them for hunting! Eek, a mouse! Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #5

About time. Who likes 24 hr/day ear-ringing? Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #4

Just like those European Gun Nutz? DonP Mar 2016 #6

"One minute we're supposed to be more like Euro Gun Control....... pablo_marmol Mar 2016 #10

Here's a suppressor on a hunting rifle in Europe. Still damn loud. benEzra Mar 2016 #8

common sense Duckhunter935 Mar 2016 #9

Not the gun industry, but shooters. ileus Mar 2016 #11

A .22 or .25 cal can become virtually silent with the action making more flamin lib Mar 2016 #14

A friend of mine lets his 4yo girl shoot his P22 with a muffler ileus Mar 2016 #15

So why are sarisataka Mar 2016 #17

Professional assassinations is not something the public has to worry about. krispos42 Mar 2016 #18

Eh? Misconceptions abound. Straw Man Mar 2016 #19

Come on now discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #20

You people would argue with a fence post wouldn't you. flamin lib Mar 2016 #21

I will argue with misinformation wherever I see it. Straw Man Mar 2016 #24

Like I said, a fence post. flamin lib Mar 2016 #27

Spew all the insults you like. Straw Man Mar 2016 #28

I never argued against legalizing them, just pointed out flamin lib Mar 2016 #29

Legalization is the topic of this thread. Straw Man Mar 2016 #30

Given the topic as per the OP, your opinion is completely irrelevant. flamin lib Mar 2016 #31

Well, it's like this ... Straw Man Mar 2016 #32

Oh, but thats the entire point... beevul Mar 2016 #33

Well, you're here. Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #34

I think many gun control advocates TeddyR Mar 2016 #16

And some of us know exactly how loud guns are and exactly how little flamin lib Mar 2016 #22

Gee, then don't buy one DonP Mar 2016 #23

You need to actually handle a gun melm00se Mar 2016 #25

Imagine the jobs created with making mufflers quicker to receive. ileus Mar 2016 #26