Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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4. it mentions South Africa's 2000 law

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:53 PM

Mar 2016

I didn't know automatic weapons were legal.

Around 49 people are murdered in South Africa each day.[5] The murder rate increased rapidly in the late 1980s and early 1990s.[6] Between 1994 and 2009, the murder rate halved from 67 to 34 murders per 100,000 people.[7] Between 2011 and 2015, it stabilized to around 32 homicides per 100,000 people although the total number of lives lost has increased due to the increase in population.[5] There have been numerous press reports on the manipulation of crime statistics that have highlighted the existence of incentives not to record violent crime.[8] Nonetheless, murder statistics are considered accurate.[9]

The drop began before the law was passed, therefore there is no connection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_legislation_in_South_Africa

It looks like the murder rate bottomed out in 2011 and started to rise again
http://www.iol.co.za/news/sas-murder-statistics-in-7-charts-1925800

BTW, why was it published in a medical journal and not, say, a criminology journal where it would be peer reviewed by experts with relevant expertise?

Why did Venezuela's complete ban do nothing? Australia's NFA? Why did ours drop even though states have been liberalizing CCW? Why did crime increase after the GCA was passed?

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I'm gonna' hate myself for doing this . . . . [View all] flamin lib Mar 2016 OP

SoP??? DonP Mar 2016 #1

It must chap your ass that the public doesn't agree with you. hack89 Mar 2016 #2

To be fair, their side has Mikey Bloomberg. Big_Mike Mar 2016 #18

America reduced their murder and manslaughter rates by 50% hack89 Mar 2016 #3

And lets not forget Austalia Jackson3000 Mar 2016 #6

it mentions South Africa's 2000 law gejohnston Mar 2016 #4

Like I said, cue the Gungeoneers . . . nt flamin lib Mar 2016 #5

or any open minded person who bothers to do their own research gejohnston Mar 2016 #7

Sigh. You're constant harping on criminologists is so tiring. Does it not occur to you that asking flamin lib Mar 2016 #11

Really? gejohnston Mar 2016 #13

Ok, so I say that using a criminologist to back up a criminologist is not reliable flamin lib Mar 2016 #15

Lott isn't a criminologist gejohnston Mar 2016 #16

No, you're not. You are doing what you accuse others of doing. nt flamin lib Mar 2016 #17

Next thing you know he'll be using climatologists to debate climatology. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #21

You said it, Sister NU! He should be using experts like the ex-head of publicity for Monsanto... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #22

"Sigh. You're constant harping on criminologists is so tiring." (Try *your*) pablo_marmol Mar 2016 #19

You can't cue those that have no voice. ileus Mar 2016 #9

So, your intention was not to have discussion...? theatre goon Mar 2016 #10

Good to see ya back. How long ya gonna last this time? nt flamin lib Mar 2016 #12

I'm not sure what you mean. theatre goon Mar 2016 #14

Thanks anyway but I'll keep my progressive 2A rights. ileus Mar 2016 #8

Good to know but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #20