Gun Control & RKBA

icon: You are striving mightily to divert attention from the OP

What did donp's zogby post have to do with the OP then? I simply replied to his zogby poll.
And note donp typically did not provide a link or source for the zogby push poll; I guess better than a liar's link tho, since readily obtainable by googling.

The {zogby} poll asked the question, “If a national pollster asked you if you owned a firearm, would you determine to tell him or her the truth or would you feel it was none of their business?”

This zogby poll is NOT asking responders whether they own a gun or not, they ask if they feel it is anyone's business whether they own one or not. Jeez, are you two that dumb you can't see thru this push poll, & think it has some kind of credibility as to gun ownership? look at it this way, at 55% to 36% that means 40% of those with an opinion, think it's none of the pollster's business whether they own a gun. Well sure, it's nobody's business to know if I or your or them own a gun, but if I was simply asked if I owned one by a reputable pollster, I would tell the truth.

donp: Jimmy has all kinds of polls and surveys and he gets to decide which ones are valid and the rest are all just "push polls" if they don't agree with his religious belief that there are fewer gun owners.

You know you have such a pathetic understanding of polling it makes me sick to read even your ad hominem. You admonish me for deciding which polls 'are valid', while posting junk science & weird logic from a zogby internet push poll, which isn't even a scientific poll. Then the noyb result of 36% you & boot polisher icon try to equate somehow with being the reason for low gun ownership rates, when the very result should raise suspicion as to the poll's inaccuracy.
You both are seriously delinquent in understanding what makes a proper poll and how to interpret results.

And only bozos would take zogby as always true anyway, & there is no corroboration amongst other pollsters, & nate silver even confirms my suspicions: Nov 18, 2008 Zogby Engages in Apparent Push Polling for Right-Wing Website By Nate Silver http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/zogby-engages-in-apparent-push-polling/

“push poll”, which the Random House Dictionary defines as “a seemingly unbiased telephone survey that is actually conducted by supporters of a particular candidate {or cause} and disseminates negative information about an opponent.”

Oct 28, 2009 Zogby Again Polls on Misleading Question, This Time with Racial Tinge By Nate Silver

Note to John Zogby (from nate silver): along those lines, I think you need to examine the thought process behind your interactive (Internet) polling, which any objective attempt at analysis will demonstrate has achieved vastly inferior results, beyond any shadow of a doubt. They don’t do justice to the years of solid work embodied in your live-operator polls. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/note-to-john-zogby/

Mar 24, 2009 The Worst Pollster in the World Strikes Again By Nate Silver Zogby International conducts two types of polls. One type are conventional telephone polls
Zogby, however, also conducts Internet-based polls. These polls are conducted among users who volunteer to participate in them, first by signing up at the Zogby website and then by responding to an e-mail solicitation. These Internet polls, to the extent they rely on voluntary participation, violate the most basic precept of survey research, which is that of the random sample. And as you might infer, they obtain absolutely terrible results. http://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/zogby/
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Zogby+poll+push+poll+right+wing+