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Irish_Dem

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13. My understanding is that the Japanese intelligence was excellent leading up to PH.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:52 PM

Dec 2021

Perhaps I am wrong on that score. Scout planes and actual spies on the ground.
So I am not sure what the decision making was about not getting the carriers.
I will have to do some reading.

Right, if Yamamoto had gotten the carriers at PH, we would have most likely lost Midway.
Then Japan would have owned the Pacific.

Very interesting about your Dad.

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I think oil and rubber in SE Asia were prime motivators for Japan's decision to strike Pearl Harbor. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #1

Right, why didn't the Japanese strike while the carriers were still there? Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #7

The Battleships, while impressive, were of limited value in the Pacific War. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #11

I think Yamamoto knew the value of Naval Air Power. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #12

My understanding is that the Japanese intelligence was excellent leading up to PH. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #13

Did you mean. not losing Midway? OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #14

Right that is what I am saying. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #15

Their economic situation was one reason they went to war, and they had a superior military Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #2

--- and the U.S. had blocked Japan's access to the oil in response to Japan's invasion of Manchuria. 3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #4

Exactly. They considered this a serious provocation. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #6

The Akimuro unit was incredibly accurate in their predictions rurallib Dec 2021 #3

Yes the Akimuro report was Army, and the Army was not as powerful politically as the Navy. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #8

Also, the Japanese military academy had a final exam quesition. 3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #5

Good God, I never heard that one. So Pearl Harbor was a Imperial Navy wet dream for a long time. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #10