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lumberjack_jeff

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4. Nothing you just said contradicts anything I said.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:33 PM
Mar 2013

If we're going to fix the problem, we can't operate under a false set of assumptions about the root cause.

Dads want their daughters to be teachers and nurses... but not because they wish to deny them the big pay and glamorous lifestyle of trucking or commercial fishing. To the extent that men sometimes say "this (job) is no place for women", they are not describing a fun, comfortable, relaxed and spiritually rewarding workplace.

The solution to this problem is entirely dependent on the assumed cause. If we continue with the belief that men keep women out of traditionally male careers because they just hate women and don't want them in their club, then we'll continue to implement solutions that are doomed to fail.

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Complete misapprehension of the problem. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #1
Women have been trying to get into the trades for decades. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #2
Nothing you just said contradicts anything I said. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #4
My dad refused to help me go to college. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #5
My dad refused to send me to college too. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #8
There are still over 60% of women in the workplace without college degrees. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #9
That isn't true today. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #10
I'm looking at the BLS numbers from 2011 too, Jeff. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #11
Me too. I provided a link. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #12
I provided a link too. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #13
kicking, read this this am. good article. bench scientist Mar 2013 #3
Thanks bench. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #6
Women in Male-Dominated Industries and Occupations in U.S. and Canada Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #7
How Single-Sex Workplaces Are Feeding Rape Culture Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #14
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