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Kaleva

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13. Rapists should never be considered to be part of one's own kind.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:51 PM
Nov 2012

The military is a cross section of the general public and you have some of the best of the best, a whole bunch of average types and some of the worst of the worst. Screening and boot camp weeds out many of the bad ones but not all.

Your comment:

"The other thought I had is that with a buddy system, will people who are assaulted in the future be held culpable because they didn't have their buddies with them? What about when the buddies are assaulted together? Will it still be their fault?"

If it's an order, then one can be held liable for failing to obey a lawful order. Towards the end of my time in the service, it became a standing order that anyone driving or riding in a motor vehicle had to wear a seat belt even if the state one was driving in didn't require it. If one was involved in an accident and wasn't wearing a seat belt, even if the operator of the other vehicle was at fault, the punishment was the service person who was injured may be held responsible for all medical costs or if killed, the life insurance policy would be forfeited. Failure to obey a lawful order had consequences even if another was at fault.

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k and r--cannot say what I think right now niyad Nov 2012 #1
The Air Force is the worst of the different Services for some reason obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #2
I think it is a military wide issue for a number of reasons. There is definitely an issue at stevenleser Nov 2012 #3
there are the ongoing scandals at the AFA, as well. however, I know from experience that the navy niyad Nov 2012 #6
Link for the group in B-Game. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #4
Terrific, thanks! obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #5
Sometimes when overseas we had to be in groups in order to go on liberty Kaleva Nov 2012 #7
Was it to protect yourselves from being raped by fellow service members obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #8
No but don't you think it wise to take precautionary measures? Kaleva Nov 2012 #9
A rape culture isn't stopped by putting the onus on the potential victims obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #10
A rape culture is stopped by years, maybe decades, of education and zero tolerence. Kaleva Nov 2012 #11
Correct, and the "buddy system" in the OP is 100% tolerance obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #14
How do you stop a rapist before he/she commits the act? Kaleva Nov 2012 #15
Give the higher ranking officer a buddy mythology Nov 2012 #18
The buddy system wasn't meant to protect service members from their own kind though, was it? Gormy Cuss Nov 2012 #12
Rapists should never be considered to be part of one's own kind. Kaleva Nov 2012 #13
See, it's that "lawful order" part that is awkward because it's blaming the trainees Gormy Cuss Nov 2012 #16
The rapist is still entirely responsible for his/her crime. Kaleva Nov 2012 #17
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