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4th law of robotics

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12. What about the 2nd part?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:19 PM
Aug 2012

I'm curious about the consensus here.

If long-term behavior can be altered by changing the ratio of sex-hormones prior to birth doesn't that kind of imply a lot of gendered behavior is not learned but is rather innate?

If you can tell a tomboy over and over again to act like a girl and she refuses and ends up displaying male characteristics but by changing the prenatal environment you can induce more traditionally female behaviors doesn't that mean that what it is to be a boy or a girl is not entirely enforced by society.

And on the flip side: doesn't that mean efforts to get boys to stop acting like boys (fight less, share more, express more feelings, etc) are doomed from the start?

I would say that if you tried to force a tomboy to act like a more traditional girl you will fail and have behavioral problems. If you try to get boys to act more feminine (like in schools ordering them to sit quietly not fight not compete and be content to merely talk about rather than do things they learn) you will fail and have behavioral problems.

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By chance I read this while watching... Deep13 Aug 2012 #1
Which is odd since we pioneered eugenics in the US 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #11
True, and ironically it was part of the progressive movement. Deep13 Aug 2012 #17
This is totally outrageous if true. Has it been independently verified ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #2
The Advocate is as legit a source as the New York Times obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #4
Link to a Northwestern page referencing this study Gormy Cuss Aug 2012 #16
This seems a total ignoring of normal study standards...just incredible ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #22
Yes, it appears that Maria New ignored all normal study standards. Gormy Cuss Aug 2012 #29
Only a tiny fraction of lesbians and tomboys have the medical condition pnwmom Aug 2012 #3
Two thoughts lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #5
I don't believe in fetus engineering or Eugenics of any kind obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #7
What if there were a way to prevent blindness or deafness in the womb? pnwmom Aug 2012 #8
That's a little different. Deep13 Aug 2012 #18
Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia can cause a multitude of symptoms, pnwmom Aug 2012 #19
Sounds serious. Deep13 Aug 2012 #25
The problem is that in some children it can be very serious, but not in all. pnwmom Aug 2012 #26
What about the 2nd part? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #12
Nothing to do with my OP obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #13
I respectfully disagree 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #14
I think your questions have been pretty well answered by researchers already. pnwmom Aug 2012 #27
Thank you 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #31
i think behavioral modification in fetus' is a horrifying thought La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2012 #34
Horrifying. nt redqueen Aug 2012 #6
But can't they decide after they grow up to be gay anyway? FLyellowdog Aug 2012 #9
It will happen 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10
So it's fine to abort these fetuses but not to try to treat them? pnwmom Aug 2012 #20
I never said that 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #30
I am very horrified. :( Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #15
Only a tiny fraction of lesbians and tomboys have the medical condition pnwmom Aug 2012 #21
Well, I find the whole philosophy behind it pretty spiritually bankrupt. Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #23
I don't agree with this treatment either, because the benefits don't outweigh the risks, IMO. pnwmom Aug 2012 #24
Genetically engineered "Stepford Wives"? Zorra Aug 2012 #35
A new kind of eugenics??? MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #28
This is the way I believe the issue of LGBT is headed... MicaelS Aug 2012 #32
I've often thought that might prove to be a cruel irony 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #36
Tell them eating pork is, too obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #41
a future without butch girls, is not a future worth living in La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2012 #33
lol! Zorra Aug 2012 #37
no, really La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2012 #38
hahaha Thread Win! obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #39
I don't ever feel feminine or masculine. Neoma Aug 2012 #40
The LGBTIQ spectrum is a huge tent. Zorra Aug 2012 #42
Congenital adrenal hyperplasia FloridaJudy Aug 2012 #43
Question haikugal Oct 2012 #44
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