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redqueen

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69. That is the only issue that seemed to be routinely referred to

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:04 PM

Feb 2012

as a problem.

There's also the infighting, but again, that was not a major issue before the trolls showed up.

Furthermore, those arguments that were started by the trolls could have been much better handled if there had been more communication, and less fingerpointing and defensiveness. All that did was serve to make things worse.

As far as paying attention to what isn't said as much as what is, I'm not sure what to make of that. I'm not a mind-reader. There are obviously some personal interactions that are problematic and I consider those to be between the people involved.

As people were so fond of telling feminists in H&M, perhaps they should put those people they find so disagreeable on ignore.

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I am calling for an election for new hosts [View all] boston bean Feb 2012 OP

I don't know that I am "involved" to the proper extent.... PassingFair Feb 2012 #1

I agree completely with this post wildflower Feb 2012 #3

thank you wildflower boston bean Feb 2012 #6

Thank you passingfair boston bean Feb 2012 #5

I read here more than post MuseRider Feb 2012 #15

Thank you muserider boston bean Feb 2012 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author justiceischeap Feb 2012 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Feb 2012 #4

Okay.. Texasgal Feb 2012 #7

Thank you Texasgal! boston bean Feb 2012 #10

Just to clarify wildflower Feb 2012 #8

okay, thank you wildflower. boston bean Feb 2012 #9

Thank you for doing this wildflower Feb 2012 #13

Thanks again, wildflower. I agree. boston bean Feb 2012 #16

No, there are NOT 3 other spots. I vote we leave it at exactly those two for now. Remember Me Feb 2012 #38

redqueen host, seabeyond 2nd seabeyond Feb 2012 #11

No, seabeyond. See my other post just now Remember Me Feb 2012 #39

YES on redqueen host and seybayond 2nd Remember Me Feb 2012 #54

Can you please clarify? Lisa D Feb 2012 #12

list as many as you want boston bean Feb 2012 #14

Personally I think we should wait The empressof all Feb 2012 #17

I disagree. boston bean Feb 2012 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Feb 2012 #27

She has been accused of hostage taking and stealing kdmorris Feb 2012 #28

who accused her of hostage taking and stealing? Remember Me Feb 2012 #55

Here: kdmorris Feb 2012 #94

In context, Remember Me Feb 2012 #98

Fair enough kdmorris Feb 2012 #101

seabeyond, please let the election take place here. boston bean Feb 2012 #33

I'd just like to state the following justiceischeap Feb 2012 #20

I disagree. boston bean Feb 2012 #21

What exactly do you disagree with? justiceischeap Feb 2012 #24

no, that a non feminist should run this group. boston bean Feb 2012 #25

That's not at all what I said justiceischeap Feb 2012 #30

please pm me if you want to explore this more deeply. boston bean Feb 2012 #31

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #37

Hey now The Straight Story Feb 2012 #64

I think your feelings aren't incompatible with a vote wildflower Feb 2012 #26

before this happened iverglas Feb 2012 #104

thank you. i concur. Scout Feb 2012 #142

I have no problem with your nominations but I also don't see an immediate need to do it now maddezmom Feb 2012 #22

I disagree. boston bean Feb 2012 #23

but some do see a reason to wait and if you going to insist on a vote now maddezmom Feb 2012 #34

I totally agree with Boston Bean -- Remember Me Feb 2012 #41

I think it's going to take more than the vote to get things back to normal maddezmom Feb 2012 #48

Yes it will. Remember Me Feb 2012 #53

And calls to vote now are an attempt to rush through a new main host when the current one is fine Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #50

Oh, please Remember Me Feb 2012 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author kdmorris Feb 2012 #29

Thank you kdmorris. boston bean Feb 2012 #32

If people insist on continuing with this The empressof all Feb 2012 #35

^_^ This. nt justiceischeap Feb 2012 #36

I agree. Lisa D Feb 2012 #40

Those of us who are regulars DO have an understanding. Remember Me Feb 2012 #42

I have read here daily since the group started The empressof all Feb 2012 #44

I wish someone would share those issues of not feeling comfortable here, in this group. redqueen Feb 2012 #49

I feel uncomfortable when someone implies people aren't regulars justiceischeap Feb 2012 #56

Regular participants are just that. redqueen Feb 2012 #66

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? iverglas Feb 2012 #105

Redqueen: Here's an example for you justiceischeap Feb 2012 #109

No answers? iverglas Feb 2012 #110

Actually there were answers, PM'd to Redqueen. n/t justiceischeap Feb 2012 #112

well fuck that noise, eh? iverglas Feb 2012 #114

It's in reply to Redqueen's question justiceischeap Feb 2012 #116

I've used the word 'regulars' and I don't act as though I own the group... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #171

They have over and over again The empressof all Feb 2012 #58

That is the only issue that seemed to be routinely referred to redqueen Feb 2012 #69

There are trolls showing up in every group The empressof all Feb 2012 #76

I'll check the thread views in the BOG and get back to you. redqueen Feb 2012 #87

Please understand I say this trying to be helpful The empressof all Feb 2012 #102

I have to agree with this statement. justiceischeap Feb 2012 #103

I'm not saying "yeah but"... redqueen Feb 2012 #108

I'm not denying there is a problem. redqueen Feb 2012 #106

The problem is that people feel uncomfortable The empressof all Feb 2012 #113

I feel extremely uncomfortable with a lead host that boston bean Feb 2012 #160

I feel uncomfortable that there seems to be a concerted effort redqueen Feb 2012 #179

I have also voiced that I did not feel comfortable here. TriMera Feb 2012 #68

What more is there? The trolls? redqueen Feb 2012 #73

I did not say anything about the thread title TriMera Feb 2012 #79

The trolls used very subtle slights. redqueen Feb 2012 #84

"and the "lispy queen" comment was said "affectionately" mtnester Feb 2012 #146

Are we claiming that this kind of comment is bullying, redqueen Feb 2012 #174

NO, I am claiming that saying it was said affectionately is a PANTLOAD mtnester Feb 2012 #186

You're cursing at me and accusing me of spin and denial. redqueen Feb 2012 #187

Get a mirror, use it mtnester Feb 2012 #188

Well,I haven't read here daily and I DO have a clue -- a very good one Remember Me Feb 2012 #60

Actually, I should amend my statement Remember Me Feb 2012 #78

i agree. i also what to know what is the accountability process La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #65

why? why do you want to know this? iverglas Feb 2012 #107

I think JustAnotherGen Feb 2012 #43

ok Vanje Feb 2012 #45

No thank you The empressof all Feb 2012 #47

Very well then..... Vanje Feb 2012 #159

I propose that we wait. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #46

I support this idea and would support you handling the vote process maddezmom Feb 2012 #51

I don't suppor it. Remember Me Feb 2012 #59

okay n/t maddezmom Feb 2012 #62

I don't support it either n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #67

okay n/t maddezmom Feb 2012 #71

I don't support it either. nt PassingFair Feb 2012 #81

I would support that as well mtnester Feb 2012 #147

The current host -- WHERE THE HELL IS SHE??? -- nowhere to be seen except when Remember Me Feb 2012 #57

I want hosts who can look beyond their own personal allegiances and facilitate discussion. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #70

You GOTTA be kidding me Remember Me Feb 2012 #74

I assure you, it's none of that. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #83

by the bar you have set, you might not be the best person suited for the job either.. boston bean Feb 2012 #80

I stated in this thread that I have no interest in hosting here. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #88

That is exactly what I am saying, yet someone wants to run a new election boston bean Feb 2012 #91

I suggested that as part of a disagreement with your call for an election. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #93

I have plenty of time, that is why I volunteered. boston bean Feb 2012 #99

I thought that I've volunteered for this, by just posting this, is there something wrong with me? boston bean Feb 2012 #61

yes. you have clear allegiances here that makes you a very impartial person La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #72

really lioness? boston bean Feb 2012 #75

ok. i dont think you'll deliberately screw up tallying at all. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #77

I do think Neoma should go as host, that much is clear! boston bean Feb 2012 #85

i am opposed to doing anything this minute La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #86

Neoma is an unelected lead host boston bean Feb 2012 #96

why is it too fast? no one has given a good reason for that Remember Me Feb 2012 #151

No, but not everyone thinks we've agreed to throw out the current hosts. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #90

No, it is an election thread. boston bean Feb 2012 #92

I'm deleted this Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #95

ah no, are you? boston bean Feb 2012 #97

I support this. Lisa D Feb 2012 #117

I propose that Remember Me Feb 2012 #149

i do not support this idea. Scout Feb 2012 #150

My vote and a comment... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #63

Boy, do I agree with that, Violet Remember Me Feb 2012 #82

If they're subscribed members of the group and they haven't been blocked, they should get a vote.n/t Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #89

Totally disagree Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #111

I truly hope that the objections about having this election now v a week from now boston bean Feb 2012 #118

Someone suggested having a members' only vote Lisa D Feb 2012 #119

I suppose they will be decided in this thread. boston bean Feb 2012 #120

So if a majority votes for two hosts, Lisa D Feb 2012 #122

A majority votes for lead host boston bean Feb 2012 #129

Good point. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #121

Wow. We've gained over 30 new subscribers since this started. redqueen Feb 2012 #123

So rolling back to before it started is probably in order, right? n/t Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #125

I wouldn't say that. redqueen Feb 2012 #126

if you do not participate in the group. and you are not a subscriber before today seabeyond Feb 2012 #127

I would definitely say that is beneficial. boston bean Feb 2012 #128

It would certainly help dispel Lisa D Feb 2012 #124

You seem intent on making this whole thing difficult Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #130

No, I'm intent on solving the problem in a way that will dispel any hint that the hosting selection Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #133

redqueen, do you cross your heart, hope to cry, stick a needle in your seabeyond Feb 2012 #134

That's the sweetest thing I've seen posted in this group all day. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #135

That was cute, wasn't it! boston bean Feb 2012 #137

actually, with boys was.... tap your belly button with your toe.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #139

Neoma needs a time out first Gormy. boston bean Feb 2012 #136

Neoma seems to be taking a timeout. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #145

No, that is not what I meant boston bean Feb 2012 #148

No. Yr deliberately trying to complicate matters Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #138

not to mention it was merely a month ago, or less, we already had this election. i have heard NO seabeyond Feb 2012 #141

Your first sentence is not supported by the evidence. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #144

I'm afraid it is Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #157

that's exactly what is happening. Scout Feb 2012 #143

No, because there've been 30 new subscriptions today Remember Me Feb 2012 #152

Got it! boston bean Feb 2012 #140

redqueen, seabeyond and iverglas as hosts n/t Scout Feb 2012 #100

Thank you scout! boston bean Feb 2012 #132

Lead host: redqueen. Co-host: seabeyond. BlueIris Feb 2012 #115

Thank you BlueIris. boston bean Feb 2012 #131

My opinion and vote laconicsax Feb 2012 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Feb 2012 #158

I came to this position yesterday, and I am not averse to it. boston bean Feb 2012 #161

That's not the only recourse -- Skinner can remove a host Remember Me Feb 2012 #167

I have witnessed this with other groups boston bean Feb 2012 #169

The election process has already begun. Lisa D Feb 2012 #162

That is a good point. boston bean Feb 2012 #163

There's no reason why the existing votes can't be reconciled. laconicsax Feb 2012 #164

Laconicsax, neoma will not resign, she has stated that. boston bean Feb 2012 #165

Then we should have those as separate elections. laconicsax Feb 2012 #166

There is no other way to remove a rogue host. boston bean Feb 2012 #168

You don't need to elect a whole new set to remove one. laconicsax Feb 2012 #170

Lac, start a thread about ousting her. boston bean Feb 2012 #177

Has Neoma been in touch with any of you hosts? Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #172

No, she has not contacted me. redqueen Feb 2012 #180

Whether it "should" or not Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #176

This is important: whoever becomes hosts -- the software trumps your other Remember Me Feb 2012 #178

My point was that hosts can choose to override that hierarchy by not taking unilateral action. laconicsax Feb 2012 #189

It would be nice - Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #190

I think I already voted, but I'll do it again Remember Me Feb 2012 #154

Lead host: redqueen. Co-host: seabeyond. noamnety Feb 2012 #155

Thank you noamnety! boston bean Feb 2012 #156

My vote is Neoma mtnester Feb 2012 #173

I've got my nomination for co-host here... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #175

Redqueen. JTFrog Feb 2012 #181

i agree with your whole post, and love seeing you in here seabeyond Feb 2012 #183

I'll vouch for your continued interest and participation in feminist discussions, JTFrog... redqueen Feb 2012 #185

I've missed 98% of what's gone on the past week, CrispyQ Feb 2012 #182

good seeing you again. and yes, you have been very busy with RL. that happens. seabeyond Feb 2012 #184