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WingDinger

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77. Another patriarchal tongue cheeking.

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 05:21 PM

Feb 2012

I truly like Seabeyond, and many others here. It would be a shame to lose them over FR sneakins, or simple trolls.

If it takes a pileon of fools, I am ready. I am not ready to call DU3 a failure. Maybe this place is not just perfect for feminine sensibilities, but in general, the internet is a rough and tumble kind of space. Men outnumber women hugely. Particularly arguing forums.

I dont know how to change that adequately, so I offer what I can. As some here said, they have not found any other place better. And likely wont.

I am honest, and generally friendly. Mean no harm, but like many professors, challenge anyone I engage. That may be a male thing. I dont know.

There are not enough women interested in internet forums to approach any kind of parity. So, we will do what we can. Sorry.

PLEASE DON'T GO!

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] redqueen Feb 2012 OP

Oh no! cyberswede Feb 2012 #1

I never thought I would feel physically ill after reading posts here. redqueen Feb 2012 #6

I've had a similar sensation lately foo_bar Feb 2012 #106

damn, you are good. what a post. ..... yes. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #109

not to be discriminatory here iverglas Feb 2012 #110

Sorry to see you go. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #2

Not I, however Feldspar Feb 2012 #3

no. seabeyond Feb 2012 #4

I only want to participate on sites that aren't overrun redqueen Feb 2012 #8

i hear ya seabeyond Feb 2012 #10

pardon the question DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #60

Men's rights activists.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #96

Losing you as host does not bother me as much as CrispyQ Feb 2012 #5

The jury system is a big part of this. redqueen Feb 2012 #9

That poster is/was a troll. The goal of trolls is to wreck and disrupt. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #107

Think about a break first. rrneck Feb 2012 #7

I appreciate that. redqueen Feb 2012 #11

"issues that aren't necessarily an accurate reflection of the real world." Feldspar Feb 2012 #13

This place is made of words. rrneck Feb 2012 #19

and some people choose not to live in the shit. that is what we use to have with du seabeyond Feb 2012 #20

You dont have to throw it rrneck Feb 2012 #27

i find the majority of women present it in a manner that is not about telling them "what to do" seabeyond Feb 2012 #30

Well, maybe I'm too thick skinned. rrneck Feb 2012 #55

maybe, you are not a woman. and maybe you have not experienced the aggressive attack on females the seabeyond Feb 2012 #57

It's true I'm not a woman. rrneck Feb 2012 #69

but see, i will stand up for you each and every time without it being a bother. or anyone else, seabeyond Feb 2012 #71

Same here. rrneck Feb 2012 #74

I know you are fully intending to be respectful here iverglas Feb 2012 #79

The issue that most dramatically rrneck Feb 2012 #88

"And the tragedy is that the real world problems that plague women plague men too." Feldspar Feb 2012 #93

Is that what men want? Prove it. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #95

I have to refer you back to the statement of principles iverglas Feb 2012 #101

Ok. I'll leave you alone and i hope there's no hsrd feelings. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #102

Another MRA outing himself right here in *Progressive Liberal Land* - Anyone surprised? n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #80

Whats an MRA? nt rrneck Feb 2012 #92

Look in the mirror, or use Google like everybody else. n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #97

I didn't deserve that. rrneck Feb 2012 #100

I didn't know what it was either till I read this thread.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #111

I'm started to get tired of people making up acronyms totally outside of process.. snooper2 Feb 2012 #119

Please think about what you have just said... redqueen Feb 2012 #22

I'll give you an easy straight line here rrneck Feb 2012 #39

With all due respect, rrneck Feldspar Feb 2012 #26

Sure they mran something. rrneck Feb 2012 #32

"Nobody can really hurt you here - unless you let them." Feldspar Feb 2012 #35

or the seeming willingness to ignore our teens killing themselves because words hurt seabeyond Feb 2012 #36

Thanks, Seabeyond :) Feldspar Feb 2012 #38

I haven't seen any porn here. Only words rrneck Feb 2012 #42

You are deliberately *missing* my point and that's Feldspar Feb 2012 #52

i think that has been the most frustrating. actually taking the time to make the point and seabeyond Feb 2012 #54

And you missed my point. rrneck Feb 2012 #63

you are wrong. they feed. the feed into every part of our life. they feed into how a child sees seabeyond Feb 2012 #72

Words matter, but deeds matter more. rrneck Feb 2012 #75

words matter, deeds matter, behavior matters, intent matters. seabeyond Feb 2012 #83

I came hete to suggest redqueen not leave. rrneck Feb 2012 #91

words condition the brain. words are what effect the action. words create the mentality seabeyond Feb 2012 #94

The street is the base youre looking for. rrneck Feb 2012 #99

People seek power by being around the powerful. Neoma Feb 2012 #103

Then keep it on that topic. Neoma Feb 2012 #105

I agree DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #62

I feared something like this would happen. There is no attempt to regulate content here anymore, BlueIris Feb 2012 #12

Thanks... redqueen Feb 2012 #14

Skinner sees the good angels in us all, or it seems. Whisp Feb 2012 #43

Assuming that at least one of the current hosts stay, you're safe to retire. laconicsax Feb 2012 #15

Thanks... redqueen Feb 2012 #18

The way the host system works makes that somewhat unnecessary. laconicsax Feb 2012 #21

i think she should be the one out of all of us anyway.... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #23

Aha, thanks. redqueen Feb 2012 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Feb 2012 #16

Well it's still very deeply entrenched, the patriarchy. redqueen Feb 2012 #17

Is it just a patriarchy DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #65

this has become a favorite quote of mine. i understand so much better now. i know seabeyond Feb 2012 #73

no offense meant DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #85

i wasnt offended. i dont know why you would pull out anywhere in that i was offended. seabeyond Feb 2012 #87

I would be extremely saddened to see you go; I don't post here, but I lurk this forum petronius Feb 2012 #25

Youve got it all wrong. Ignorance, is an invitation to teach. WingDinger Feb 2012 #28

Way to mansplain there WD... n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #33

I clicked to reply in this thread iverglas Feb 2012 #29

DUDES AND DUDETTES. Our tent is growing, and there are many motivations for this. WingDinger Feb 2012 #31

Way to mansplain.2 n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #34

No one here has a "thin skin." Those leaving are not leaving for that reason. BlueIris Feb 2012 #45

But you're a classic member! Neoma Feb 2012 #37

so sorry to hear that! Whisp Feb 2012 #40

Not to speak for RQ but, Feldspar Feb 2012 #44

Um, I have done just that. And not always when agreeing completely. WingDinger Feb 2012 #48

Mansplain.4 Feldspar Feb 2012 #61

That's not usually how it works. Neoma Feb 2012 #50

you are off the mark with that, Feldspar. Whisp Feb 2012 #56

I understand, It is getting hard to stay around here these days. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #41

There has been talk, at least in my house, Feldspar Feb 2012 #46

woman raped by cop, jury system unprincipled, this thread seabeyond Feb 2012 #47

Jury system not broken. It is evolving. People try to be fair. WingDinger Feb 2012 #49

some are trying to be fair. many are not. and you can tell that also in the vote and comments left seabeyond Feb 2012 #51

I have seen some reporting, and some juroring make it a mockery. WingDinger Feb 2012 #53

Mansplain.3. Bodyguard?! Holy crow. n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #58

grinnin. ya. but he means well..... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #59

It sure is nice to know that some strong anti-feminist Feldspar Feb 2012 #64

Grew up outnumbered. They were anything but shrinking violets. WingDinger Feb 2012 #68

"This might be one of those thin skin moments." Mansplain.5 Feldspar Feb 2012 #76

Another patriarchal tongue cheeking. WingDinger Feb 2012 #77

ah, wingdinger..... seabeyond Feb 2012 #84

i am not ready to go yet. not today seabeyond Feb 2012 #66

It goes beyind that IMHO DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #70

"we need to see if the mods are willing to do this, and if we would offer help." Feldspar Feb 2012 #78

Ladies is? DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #82

let me ask you, being flexible in mind that you are. because i have been addressing this the last seabeyond Feb 2012 #86

well DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #98

The issue with the word "lady" noamnety Feb 2012 #104

ok, THAT makes sense DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #108

"Women" n/t MadrasT Feb 2012 #89

the system is evolving? Whisp Feb 2012 #67

I've seen that 'it's evolving' thing right from the start here at DU3... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #112

Not I ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #81

I certainly understand needing to step back MadrasT Feb 2012 #90

I wish you weren't stepping down as host, redqueen... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #113

save me a place on the other side, will ya? iverglas Feb 2012 #114

I too do not want to see you go Remember Me Feb 2012 #115

kick for historical record yardwork Feb 2012 #116

you're a peach.. thanks so much boston bean Feb 2012 #117

You're welcome! yardwork Feb 2012 #118