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CousinIT

(10,485 posts)
23. Violence against women has DOUBLED and your response is "women do it too"?
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:11 AM
Apr 2021

Which excuses and negates that 50% increase in violence against women as if it is negligible and doesn't mean anything and shouldn't mean anything. . . . that it's just "normal" behavior.

YOUR RESPONSE HERE is ITSELF the definition of mental and emotional abuse.

How? Here I'll spell it out for you:

Accusing, blaming, and denial
This behavior comes from an abuser’s insecurities. They want to create a hierarchy in which they’re at the top and you’re at the bottom. Or that abuse is EQUAL to and justified by the victim's behavior.

Here are some examples:

Turning the tables. They say you cause their rage and control issues by being such a pain. ('women who do this too, or are provocateurs who incite others.')
Denying something you know is true. An abuser will deny that an argument or even an agreement took place. This is called gaslighting. It’s meant to make you question your own memory and sanity. (you are gaslighting other here about this global increase in violence against women)
Goading then blaming. Abusers know just how to upset you. But once the trouble starts, it’s your fault for creating it. ('women who do this too, or are provocateurs who incite others.')
Denying their abuse. When you complain about their attacks, abusers will deny it, seemingly bewildered at the very thought of it. (you and others here WILL be 'bewildered' at my telling you that your response here is in itself abuse - WATCH - it'll happen)
Accusing you of abuse. They say you’re the one who has anger and control issues and they’re the helpless victim. (abusive men always portray themselves as helpless victims - 'pussywhipped' - your response here - supports them ie: 'women who do this too, or are provocateurs who incite others.')
Trivializing. When you want to talk about your hurt feelings, they accuse you of overreacting and making mountains out of molehills. (your response here ('Wow. There have always been jilted lovers, triangles, sadists') is TRIVIALIZING. Period.)
Blaming you for their problems. Whatever’s wrong in their life is all your fault. You’re not supportive enough, didn’t do enough, or stuck your nose where it didn’t belong. (you are blaming women for the 50% increase in violence against them - in your response - while trying to pass that 50% increase in violence against women as "normal" and also trivial)
Destroying and denying. They might crack your cell phone screen or “lose” your car keys, then deny it. (your response 'women do it too' and your attempt to pass this behavior off as "normal" is flat out denial of that 50% increase, in addition to trivializing it)

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Women are crying for help. Google may be listening, but is it helping? None of the aforementioned riversedge Apr 2021 #1
THey're Losing Dominance Across THe Board Me. Apr 2021 #2
If it is a perceived loss of power then that would be a pathological reaction. 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #30
Domestic violence IS pathological wnylib Apr 2021 #44
Quite Me. Apr 2021 #49
It certainly can be. 58Sunliner May 2021 #56
Why is it pathological only when it's a "perceived" loss of power whathehell Apr 2021 #53
It's not reality that matters to a pathological illness-involving, caused by, or of the nature of 58Sunliner May 2021 #55
Wow. There have always been jilted lovers, triangles, sadists bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #3
"there are women who do this too, or are provacateurs who incite others." Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #8
Sometimes, it is. There are TV shows and YouTube series on the subject bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #12
And it was totally necessary that you brought that up during a discussion of the DOUBLING of Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #14
Oh, for everloving fuck's sake. Any other republiQan-generated points you want to make here? Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #15
I am not making RepubliQan-generated points. I am presenting equality and reality bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #17
Seriously, this is sad. I'm out. I'm sure you will cry "cancel culture" but remember: cancel Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #18
Yeah, you kinda are. ananda Apr 2021 #22
Reality?? Do men worry about physical abuse/murder if they leave their partners? 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #28
I spent 5 years in a violent marriage wnylib Apr 2021 #46
I am very, very sorry to hear about what you went through, and very impressed that you Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #48
OK. I'm fine with keeping it on topic, but wnylib Apr 2021 #50
That is not reality that you speak of. sheshe2 Apr 2021 #51
You can, of course, provide statistics and percentages. Unless it has changed drastically, nowhere niyad Apr 2021 #21
TV shows and YouTube channels wryter2000 Apr 2021 #41
His does happen. Perhaps more than some would like to admit. Dream Girl Apr 2021 #27
We know it happens. So do rainy days and traffic jams. But that is not what we are talking Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #31
I shouldn't have commented. I didn't tread the article, but from the OP thought they were cited that Dream Girl Apr 2021 #35
It is a real problem. And a terrible one. Just not what we are talking about here. Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #39
Got it. Dream Girl Apr 2021 #40
I know you do. And my comment was meant to convey that I know you do and to not Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #43
Violence against women has DOUBLED and your response is "women do it too"? CousinIT Apr 2021 #23
Thank you. Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #26
Thank you, CousinIT. sheshe2 Apr 2021 #52
Thanks for calling out the false equivalence, CousinIT whathehell Apr 2021 #54
Gross obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #37
Men on a global scale are increasingly killing the women they can't control. no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author multigraincracker Apr 2021 #5
Oh, great. The "whataboutists" are weighing in. Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #7
Denial. 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #32
Not true obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #38
I was going to quote Will Smith and ask if it is just that it is documented, but the article shows Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #6
Wow! Deeply, deeply disturbing. Duppers Apr 2021 #9
In many other countries, its encouraged. Look at Islamic laws regarding women. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #10
Rightwingers will no doubt blame this on lockdowns -- 'look what Democrats made men do' LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #11
No. From the responses to this thread, the line seems to be, "But women do it too." Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #16
Ugh....but I have heard increases in domestic violence being blamed on "Democratic" lockdowns LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #47
Indeed, "Why do the ladies stay?" Backseat Driver Apr 2021 #19
It's tempting to think... -misanthroptimist Apr 2021 #20
Jekyll and Hyde personality (Mr. Nice Guy in public, monster in private) CousinIT Apr 2021 #42
i do think the growing influence of women Roc2020 Apr 2021 #24
Women aren't fueling this. Men are. Men are responsible for how they cope. 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #33
There are times when I think the Internet has done more harm than good. Lonestarblue Apr 2021 #25
Goes along with all the RW macho bullshit... Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #29
It isn't just right wing. And it isn't just white males. 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #34
But they're glorifying it...and I didn't say "white"...it's happening all over the world...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #36
Duh........ Submariner Apr 2021 #45
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