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27. Another Sagan quote: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:10 PM

Nov 2012

When imagining whole new realities, or making any other bold or far-fetched claim, extraordinary evidence is required.

As far as supernatural claims, there isn't any evidence at all. The total lack of evidence is great evidence that supernatural claims are untrue.

Out of the infinite number of possible claims that can be made about anything, the only way to separate fact from fiction is with evidence. The burden of proof is on the one making the positive claim. No evidence equals irrelevance.

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If there is something like spirits, supernatural, ghosts, any of that crap.. [View all] snooper2 Jul 2012 OP

Meet Harry Houdini REP Jul 2012 #1

hmmm libodem Jul 2012 #2

Right. Shadowflash Jul 2012 #3

Why do ghosts always have clothes on? zappaman Jul 2012 #4

Here ya go: frogmarch Jul 2012 #5

I will be nakkid. zappaman Jul 2012 #6

haha! frogmarch Jul 2012 #7

They don't Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #8

Shouldn't all ghosts be buck nakkid? left-of-center2012 Oct 2012 #10

Only if they're good looking! I don't want any ugly and naked ghosts handing around my place! RKP5637 Mar 2013 #43

Some people will NEVER believe, unless/until they have their own personal experience... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2012 #9

So do ESP believers, Alien Abduction believers, Faith Healers, And the Romans thought Zeus changed.. Logical Oct 2012 #12

Sorry, but you should know that I don't suffer fools lightly... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2012 #13

LOL, I love it you mentioned unicorns! Explains a lot! n-t Logical Oct 2012 #15

Yes, it apparently explains your lack of reading comprehension...n/t Ghost in the Machine Oct 2012 #17

The "sitting down on chest" thing is called "old hag." Dash87 Feb 2013 #41

Thank you for the info... but, if you re-read my post, I never said that Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #42

You're right, you know. LiberalAndProud Jul 2013 #46

I had a 'weird experience' left-of-center2012 Oct 2012 #11

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #14

7 Billion people on this planet, nobody could have pulled it off by now? snooper2 Oct 2012 #16

Did you understand what I wrote? (Well, what Carl Sagan wrote.) Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #18

Absence of evidence is great evidence of absence cpwm17 Oct 2012 #19

Not quite. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #20

The default position is that the something isn't true when there's no evidence for the something. cpwm17 Nov 2012 #21

No, it isn't. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #22

In the context of this thread, whole new realities, such as "spirits cpwm17 Nov 2012 #23

It appears we are talking about two different things. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #24

Sagan was aware of the distinction William Seger Nov 2012 #25

Sagan was aware, but cpwm17 didn't appear to be. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #26

Another Sagan quote: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." cpwm17 Nov 2012 #27

I agree with that statement as well. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #28

Evidence does not equal proof cpwm17 Nov 2012 #29

No, it doesn't, but it is a good indicator. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #30

It's not necessary to assume tama Feb 2013 #31

When I become a ghost I'll leave a hard poop on your doorstep, Quantess Feb 2013 #32

ghosts can defaecate at will? snooper2 Feb 2013 #33

it will be a ghost poop demwing Feb 2013 #36

Because once the Spirit moves on Smilo Feb 2013 #34

I have spent more than one night in more than one "haunted hotel" zappaman Feb 2013 #35

Yeh....what you said. CanSocDem Feb 2013 #40

BOO !!!!!! nt clarice Feb 2013 #37

Jeez dude! zappaman Feb 2013 #38

lol....I'm a spooky girl. nt clarice Feb 2013 #39

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The fact that there is a Lifetime network fadedrose Jul 2013 #45