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jonno99

(2,620 posts)
19. It is said that oftentimes we don't know what we don't know - so I ask -
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:04 PM
Mar 2015

how do you know the following?
"a plane traveling at sea level speeds would have resistance and a lot of plane debris on the ground at the building."

Unless you have an example of another plane of similar size and speed flying into a similar building, you really have no basis for an opinion - IMHO.

And concerning Flight 93: what do you think the crash site should look like when a jet flies almost straight down - at a high rate of speed - into relatively soft ground? If you don't have a lot of experience with planes crashing into things you might be surprised at the result - which is probably why the mayor (and associates) were confused.

two conflicting opinions:
"There was no plane,” Ernie Stull, mayor of Shanksville [and a resident for 77 years], told German television in March 2003: "My sister and a good friend of mine were the first ones there,” Stull said. “They were standing on a street corner in Shanksville talking. Their car was nearby, so they were the first here—and the fire department came. Everyone was puzzled, because the call had been that a plane had crashed. But there was no plane.”

"In Shanksville, crash scene neighbor Paula Pluta, 33, said that moments before she witnessed the plane go down, she heard a loud noise outside her home. She speculated that the sound had come from the aircraft's jet engines as it passeed overhead."It sounded kind of screechy - - like something was wrong," she said in an interview on her front porch....A second later, she said she spotted the low-flier pass by outside her living room window headed in the direction of nearby Shanksville-Stonycreek School before it disappeared behind a row of trees. "By that time I saw the jet falling from the sky," she said."
http://www.devvy.com/flight_93_part_1.html



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That was my very first thought as well Dixiegrrrrl Mira Mar 2015 #1
just listening SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #2
The debris fields would not be remotely comparable. Thor_MN Mar 2015 #3
I gently suggest you start digging a little Mira Mar 2015 #4
I gently suggest you are attempting to compare apples, hubcaps and shampoo. Thor_MN Mar 2015 #5
I gently suggest you search a little more zappaman Mar 2015 #6
LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2015 #13
"Digging?" William Seger Mar 2015 #7
Here is what I know for certain: Mira Mar 2015 #8
That's a pretty lame excuse for posting bullshit William Seger Mar 2015 #9
Very well said Politicalboi Mar 2015 #14
I found the Snopes article pretty comprehesive jonno99 Mar 2015 #11
I don't believe that Politicalboi Mar 2015 #15
"jump the shark" William Seger Mar 2015 #18
You don't by chance jonno99 Mar 2015 #20
It is said that oftentimes we don't know what we don't know - so I ask - jonno99 Mar 2015 #19
Dropping 27,000 feet in 8 minutes is a "gradual descent"? Ghost in the Machine Mar 2015 #21
Compared to impacting the ground at a 40 degree down angle? Thor_MN Mar 2015 #22
"Controlled descent rate of 3,000 feet per minute" LOL! Ghost in the Machine Mar 2015 #23
The descent was on autopilot. Thor_MN Mar 2015 #24
It didn't crash into a reclaimed strip mine jberryhill Mar 2015 #10
Here's a picture of the crash site in 1994 Politicalboi Mar 2015 #16
While I find your use of quotation marks around "planes" intriguing... jberryhill Mar 2015 #17
Shhhhhhhh!!!!! Politicalboi Mar 2015 #12
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