Israel/Palestine

no_hypocrisy

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1. Conundrum

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:48 AM

Nov 2016

If Abbas were to recognize Israel as a legitimate Jewish state (and face likely assassination from his own people among others), what's to prevent Netanyahu from declaring that the settlements as of that date to be "part of the Jewish State" and Abbas has surrendered that land as a Palestinian homeland?

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Netanyahu to Abbas: If settlements didn’t exist, would you recognize a Jewish state? [View all] shira Nov 2016 OP

Conundrum no_hypocrisy Nov 2016 #1

"Assuming we solve the settlement problem" precludes that imagined danger FBaggins Nov 2016 #5

In 1988 the Palestinians voted to recognize the State Of Israel Tony_FLADEM Nov 2016 #2

Take note of this document oberliner Nov 2016 #4

It would seem as if the US explicitly did not recognize a Jewish state, Little Tich Nov 2016 #12

Only if you ignore the first sentence FBaggins Nov 2016 #13

The very fact they won't recognize a Jewish state, won't give up on millions of refugees.... shira Nov 2016 #6

Perhaps they just find it a little unfair that one group of people have refugee status Tony_FLADEM Nov 2016 #7

Yeah, it's unfair Jews are indigenous to Israel - isn't it? As for Palestinian refugees.... shira Nov 2016 #8

From the time Jews began going to 'Palestine' in the last 19th century until about the late 1920's Tony_FLADEM Nov 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #11

Nope. That's what remained after 1946 when Jordan was founded FBaggins Nov 2016 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #15

Start at 1920, the Palestine of that time period designed to be the Jewish homeland.... shira Nov 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #19

Same map as the one at BBC. Is BBC also idiotic? shira Nov 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #22

The fact is Balfour's Jewish homeland was Palestine, which included Jordan... shira Nov 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #33

Notice the map you used includes land to the east of the Jordan River? shira Nov 2016 #34

The Palestine Mandate legally entitles Jews to a homeland in Palestine.... shira Nov 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #37

You falsely claimed Trans-Jordan was never a part of Palestine, remember? shira Nov 2016 #38

Now I'm curious, Tich. What was Palestine's boundaries during the Mandate period? shira Nov 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #10

You wouldn't support a Jewish state if settlements didn't exist.... shira Nov 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #18

Arab Israelis already have equal rights guaranteed by law, so be honest - okay? shira Nov 2016 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #23

Palestinians have rejected 3 deals in the past 16 years. Land swaps solve settlements... shira Nov 2016 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #31

Please, be honest. You oppose the UN Partition Plan of 1947.... shira Nov 2016 #35

To play devil's advocate, if the Abbas said yes they would recognize Isreal, would the settlements still_one Nov 2016 #26

The Palestinians have rejected 3 peace deals since 2000 in which settlements would be dismantled.... shira Nov 2016 #27

I am presenting a hypothetical shira. What would Netanyahu do if Abbas agreed to that? still_one Nov 2016 #28

I think the pressure would be too much on Netanyahu. Remember 1999 when Barak won.... shira Nov 2016 #29

You make some good points. Public pressure probably would be a factor if they thought a viable still_one Nov 2016 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #32

See Clinton Parameters, Olmert's offer, Geneva Initiative. shira Nov 2016 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #40

Olmert's offer had land swaps & here they are... shira Nov 2016 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #43

Yeah, Abbas wrote it down. Read the article. n/t shira Nov 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #45

Yeah, the map Abbas wrote down.... shira Nov 2016 #46